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Comment reply on larrybraverman's Completed Build: Gaming HTPC w/ NAS (First Build)

  • 34 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice case!

I have EXACTLY the same. ;-)

When I chose to build Malefix, my wife said: "If you want to build your own custom PC, its case MUST be completely black, good looking, small and quiet!" When I shown her this case, she said: "It's a bit big, are you sure you can't find a smaller case?" I answered her: "Yes, but none of them offer enough space for a respectable video card, 4 hard drives, an SSD and a decent CPU cooler." She said: "OK, it's better be quiet!!!"

When I received it, she said: "Oh My, it's so big..." And I thought: "But it's so small..." (I mean, I saw lots of bigger PCs...)

Hopefully, it's quiet. LOL!!! :-D

Comment reply on samsone's Completed Build: Malefix (my first build since 2005)

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

After using that build for nearly a year, I surely know that the bottleneck isn't the number of cores. With more cores and a slower clock, all I would get is as slower system. That Xeon E3-1231 V3 is just fine.

In fact, the main bottleneck on that system is the access time on my hard drives. I installed Windows on the SSD, so the system boots fast and my applications are very snappy, but when it comes to mixed random read/write on my RAID 0 array, my hard drive's 17~19 ms access time really slow down the system.

For my next build, I will use a very big part of my budget to buy few big SSDs...

Comment reply on exzacklyright's Completed Build: Plex ~ FreeNAS Server

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 for the Xeon!!!

Which RAID level do you use with these 6 identical hard drives?

Comment reply on samsone's Completed Build: Malefix (my first build since 2005)

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Xeon E3-1231 V3 is simply the best "budget wise" 8 threads processor out there...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I want 32GB sould I buy one kit of 4 sticks of 8GB or two "identical" kits of 2 sticks of 8GB???"

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

OK, so it seems safer to buy 2 "identical" packs of 2 sticks. Something like 2x that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I want 32GB sould I buy one kit of 4 sticks of 8GB or two "identical" kits of 2 sticks of 8GB???"

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Sounds good. I guess buying two pack of two is OK, as long as I use memory from same pack in same "slot color".

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I want 32GB sould I buy one kit of 4 sticks of 8GB or two "identical" kits of 2 sticks of 8GB???"

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

My MB is dual channel only, but I want 32GB, so I need 4 sticks. My question was one pack of 4 sticks or 2 packs of 2 sticks. One pack of 4 sticks will theoretically contain 4 "perfectly identical" sticks, but 2 packs of 2 sticks will contain two pairs of "perfectly identical" sticks (but a stick from pack #1 will not necessarily be "perfectly identical" than a stick from pack #2)...

I guess that kind of minor differences is not a real issue (because my MB is not quad channel), but I want to be sure, so I ask...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion on OCZ Z Series 850W power supply"

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

@griffscavern: I guess only one year of 24/7 350 watts usage is not too harmful for a decent 850 watts 80+ gold PSU. Am I wrong?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion on OCZ Z Series 850W power supply"

  • 53 months ago
  • 2 points

If not you can send it to me!

Nice try... I will keep it for me... :-P

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion on OCZ Z Series 850W power supply"

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

My friend bought that OCZ power supply in 2012. He built a Bitcoin mining rig with it. I don't remember all the details about his Bitcoin mining rig, but it has 2 video cards and it have been up and running 24/7 for a year. My friend measured the power usage between the wall plug and the power supply. At full load, his mining rig consumed about 350 watts.

After a year of Bitcoin mining, my friend stopped mining, he sold the two video cards and he kept the power supply in case he needed it later. But, a full year has pass and my friend didn't reuse his power supply.

So, now that I'm planning to build a new computer, my friend offers me his power supply because knows his power supply will be more useful for me than for him.

Talking about my build, I plan to build something like that:

  • 1x Xeon E3-1276 V3
  • 1x Noctua NH-U12S (120mm fan)
  • 1x Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H
  • 4x 8GB DDR3 (1.5 Volts)
  • 1x Radeon R7 360
  • 1x SATA SSD (OCZ Vertex 3 240GB)
  • 4x SATA 7200RPM HDD
  • 1x DVD writer
  • 1x 140mm case fan
  • 1x 120mm case fan
  • 1x 80mm case fan
  • 1x USB mouse
  • 1x USB keyboard

I will try to keep the best uptime (ideally 24/7 95%+)

At some moments, I will plug some USB keys and digital cameras. My motherboard and case will allow me to plug at most 8 USB devices at the same time (including my keyboard and mouse), so very rarely up to 6 other USB devices can be plug at the same time.

I used eXtreme Power Supply Calculator in expert mode to calculate the power consumption of my build and in the worst case scenario (6 USB devices + 100% CPU + 24/7), I will need 400 watts and eXtreme Power Supply Calculator recommended me a 450 watts power supply.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I buy a good power supply or a dedicated video card?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry, english is not my primary language, so sometime I use poorly translated expressions...

I simply wanted to point out that instead of trying to list all the good PSUs in a single sentence, it would be simpler to tell people to check on jonnyGURU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I buy a good power supply or a dedicated video card?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

EVGA do have bad PSUs, it's a fact. But, with jonnyGURU it's very easy to know which are good and which are bad...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I buy a good power supply or a dedicated video card?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

What not simply stick to power supplies that jonnyGURU rated over 9.5?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I buy a good power supply or a dedicated video card?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, that what I though... With a well rated power supply, I will stay away from troubles.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I buy a good power supply or a dedicated video card?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, that what I though... With a well rated power supply, I will stay away from troubles.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I buy a good power supply or a dedicated video card?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

My old PSU has no certification at all... I think I'm better of with a well rated power supply (the EVGA power supply I chose has 10/10 from jonnyGURU).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Anything wrong or missing?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

The ISK 600M supports liquid cooling systems...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?289848-Antec-ISK600M

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Anything wrong or missing?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

The micro ATX format is mandatory, and the micro ATX case is already here on my desk. So, now, I must find a good cooling system and/or a cooler processor (but which is able to handle this load)... Any suggestions?

What about a Xeon E3-1246 V3? (It's 4 watts under the Core i7 4790K...)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does this kind of build needs aftermarker case fans?"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Intake or exhaust?

On rear or on the side?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3TB hard drive"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

24/7 doesn't mean on all the time. You're not running your drive 24/7 just because it's on, only if it's doing "stuff".

You're right. In fact this drive will "work" about 10 or 12 hour a day (7 days a week).

I feel that turning the drive on and off constantly causes more wear and tear than just keeping it powered up constantly.

Thanks, I will take good note of that. I will configure my OS to keep my hard drives always on.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3TB hard drive"

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

But, what about this one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st3000dm001

(ST3000DM001, not ST33000650NS)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Big aftermarket CPU coolers vs RAM sticks height"

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm NOT waiting for Zen ... I will NOT buy any AMD CPU ... I simply wait two things:

  1. All Skylake CPU SKUs being launched and reviewed.
  2. My savings grown enough to have 1300 bucks to spend on a new computer.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Big aftermarket CPU coolers vs RAM sticks height"

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

Let's wait February 2016... and see. I will buy nothing until then.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Big aftermarket CPU coolers vs RAM sticks height"

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm on a budget... I would love to buy a X99... God knows how I would love it...

Thanks, you just confirmed what I already thought: my best bet is to buy only low profile memory...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Your comments are welcome :-)"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Long story short,

For server applications, I prefer Linux. For desktop applications, I prefer Windows. But, I'm paid to develop websites which works perfectly on all the popular platforms...

So, I need to run multiple versions of Windows, Mac OS X, iOS and Android to test my websites in all these OSes.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Your comments are welcome :-)"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

No AMD CPU for me. (My virtual Hackintoshes will not boot on non-Intel processors.) Hush...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Your comments are welcome :-)"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes I configured PCPP to add a 5% tax rate.

Talking about the future... I'm not sure to be ready to buy all that components within the next months. I'm considering to wait the next Intel "tock" and buy a "Skylake / LGA-1151 / DDR-4 / PCIe 4 / Next Radeon generation" system...

For the moment, my Core i5-3317U and my Core i3-330M are a little slow, but I think I will be able to wait for Skylake.

That is always the same "future proof" question... sigh...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Your comments are welcome :-)"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks a lot for your help! :-D

So, I think I will finally go for something like that, and if, one day, I need more GPU power, I will simply replace the video card by a faster one.

And for the PSU, I will keep the 850 watts for longevity (capacitor aging).

Never mind about the compatibility warning, I will buy a Slim SATA to Desktop SATA cable.

Never mind about the compatibility error, I already have a ISK 600M right in front of me on my desk, and it can be fill with (3x2.5'' drives and 3x3.5'' drives and one slim ODD) or (4x2.5'' drives and 2x3.5'' drives and one slim ODD). I even think it could possible to fit an additional 2.5'' drive in the slim ODD rack (maybe I will try this tomorrow).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $336.72 @ Newegg Canada
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $40.89 @ DirectCanada
Motherboard *Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $108.67 @ Vuugo
Memory *A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $131.97 @ Newegg Canada
Memory *A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $131.97 @ Newegg Canada
Storage OCZ Vertex 3.20 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Seagate Momentus Thin 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage *Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $61.89 @ Vuugo
Video Card *Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card $157.48 @ Newegg Canada
Case Antec ISK 600M MicroATX Mini Tower Case Purchased For $79.99
Power Supply EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $177.39 @ Vuugo
Optical Drive Samsung SN-208FB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $25.72 @ Vuugo
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full (32/64-bit) Purchased For $0.00
Monitor Dell E190S 60Hz 19.0" Monitor Purchased For $0.00
Monitor Dell E190S 60Hz 19.0" Monitor Purchased For $0.00
External Storage *Samsung D3 Station 3TB External Hard Drive $115.48 @ Newegg Canada
Other Slim SATA to Desktop SATA Cable $11.69
Other HDMI to VGA cable $51.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1431.85
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 21:20 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Your comments are welcome :-)"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

In case you want to take a look at the kind of setup I think I will end up with in one or two years... Depending on which CPU I will buy:

Xeon E3-1246 or Xeon E3-1276

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Your comments are welcome :-)"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry, I omit lots of important details about my extended needs... I understand your reactions, I admit that my filters can seem very iffy without the following explanations...

  • Even if I'm on a limited budget, I'm willing to spend all my limited budget on this build.

  • I want an iGPU because it can help me to troubleshoot this system in case of unfortunate display problems. With an iGPU, I will be able to test the system without its dedicated video card and then know whether if the display problems come from the motherboard/processor or from the dedicated video card.

  • I want a motherboard with two PCIe x16 slot for similar reasons. With a second PCIe x16 slot (even if both are not PCIe 3.0), I will be able to test the dedicated video card in this second PCIe x16 slot to know if the display problem comes from the video card or simply from the PCIe x16 slot I used originally.

  • I want to buy the fastest memory sticks my budget will allow me to buy (without using XMP nor any other overclocking trick). At same clock speed, lower CAS numbers offer lower access time, and then offer better performances. I'm not willing to pay for CAS 7 memory, but for a little $20 extra, I think CAS 8 memory is interesting.

  • I want to buy the fastest processor my budget will allow me to buy (without using overclocking). I'm even seriously considering to deliberately buy a Xeon E3-1276 V3. Some tasks I will ask to this computer will require lots of processing power: compress and decompress big files, render 3D scenes, apply complex formulas to huge spreadsheets, crypt et decrypt large files, do some batch processing to folders of pictures, encode long videos, run regularly around five virtual machines simultaneously...

  • I want to buy a motherboard and a video card supporting CrossFire because it will allow me to add a second video card (or replace my actual video card by two brand new video cards) if one day I need more “GPU” power. Without being a gamer, I'm not sure that a fast CPU and a budget dedicated video card will always be enough, maybe one day or another, two GPUs will be useful.

  • I chose ATI over NVidia because I'm a long time fan of ATI video cards. I considered buy a FirePro, but it's so expensive... Ironically, I chose Intel processors over AMD processors for performances reasons. Maybe it's time for me to give another chance to NVidia... Do you have budget NVidia GPUs to suggest me?

  • I use the “6 SATA III ports or more” filter only because I found no way to create a filter for “at least 6 SATA ports and at least 1 of them being a SATA III”. I will add 3 old HDDs and one old SSD to this build, so I will have a total of 4 HDDs, 1 SSD and 1 ODD. Then, I will need 6 SATA ports and I want one of them being a SATA III for my SSD.

I chose to buy an EVGA 220-G2-0850-XR PSU for the following reasons:

  • I used eXtreme Power Supply Calculator and it has calculated that I will need between 550 and 800 watts (depending on the “capacitor aging” and on if I add a second video card or not), so I chose to buy a 850 watts power supply.

  • This particular power supply get 9.9 at jonnyGURU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "A simple one: simply allow [+1|-1] on topics"

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Sounds good... Didn't seen it like that.

Comment reply on fish2's Completed Build: Fish2s Home Server

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Xeon rules!!! :-D

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