No problem. Given the overall purpose of this build, I'd say it was a pretty competent one nonetheless. The motherboard and CPU are 2 of the 3 most important components in a build. You did well in that regard.
Just finished the build yesterday, so I'm definitely posting the initial build. Just waiting for my 4 case fans to arrive. I'm also going to do some testing as well.
At the moment I'm enjoying my Mini ITX build. I'll definitely take some cues from your build for a smaller HTPC next time around.
My rear fans pull air out, so I'd be wise to have that fan exhausting heat like the CPU fan. Or run a heatsink directly to the rear fans. I'm even looking into doing a custom watercooling loop right now.
What's your current BIOS? The latest is the F22, which helped stabilize everything for me. My initial build (as well as final build) includes the same motherboard and APU as yours. You're right about cable management with the board, the mATX version is a lot better in that regard. This board has a somewhat schizophrenic layout.
The only recommendation I can make is to swap out the Intel 3165NGW card for the 8265 model, you'd get double the speed and get BT 5.0 as well. A worthy upgrade for roughly $25.
I was actually thinking about using an L-bracket to mount the fan, either from the rear case fan or the HDD caddy. maybe even use the bracket as a heatsink as well.
At least Michael Bay's Megatron had traces of red, so I'll let it slide.
Bumblebee is my favorite. Good job.
Cool, though my build is a good deal taller despite being an ITX as well. From what I can see, you'd be able to throw in an RX 560 4GB or 1050Ti with next to no mods needed. Maybe an extra fan to keep temps at bay if anything.
I smashed that like button based on the intro itself. I'm not the most savvy person when it comes to building a PC and did my initial budget build on an Amazon shopping list.
Considering the CPU (an 8th gen hexa-core i7) and motherboard in conjunction with your budget, I'd say you did very well. You'd be hard-pressed to push that processor to its limits.
The 1050 could have been swapped for even a 4GB RX 560 for roughly the same price with better overall performance, but the aforementioned CPU/motherboard combo outweigh even that choice. If you're sticking with Nvidia then the 1050 is as good as it gets since the Ti models run well over $180 for dual fan models. The single fan 1050Ti could run around the $180 range. Keeping it all under $1000 would mean being budget-savvy and getting similar fans from eBay for roughly half the price. That would offset the $30-$35 price difference between the 1050 and 1050Ti enough to keep you under $1000. With the aforementioned RX 560 you wouldn't even need that option. I saw that same model 560 go for the same price around the time of your purchase. Trust me, I was hunting around for a month before I pulled the trigger on my first build. That card was considered.
I love those fans, I'll need them for my mATX build (going to install 5 fans) and I'm thinking of forsaking the Autolizer fans for these. +1
A B350 motherboard with a Ryzen 3 2200G would actually be a decent replacement. Or a Ryzen 5 2600. The Ryzen 5 2400G is marginally better than the 2200G with Vega 11 graphics and SMT. Otherwise, if you forego the 2200G I'd recommend at least the 2600 for your budget.
Looks perfect for an HTPC. So long as it runs fine, you're good to go.
I actually thought about doing a mod with a 40mm fan just for the VRM. Now to just make a it LED fan...
It's fine, I have peace of mind knowing this is suitable for future upgrades. If I added a couple of SSD/HDD and a 2600 X CPU, I'd be a bit close for comfort.
I guess, but weren't Autobots red?
So everything was simply red LEDs then? I love red themes, though.
But Decepticons have a purple insignia...
My fan settings lean toward the aggressive side (max CPU temp being 65o C for 100% fan speed). They're also fairly linear, with 12o C/20% increments starting from 22o C/20% for the system fans. Depending on what I'm doing, I'll set the system fan profile to either the system temps or the VRM temps (highest next to the chipset) for more aggressive cooling. Helps that the rear fans spin at 2500rpm +/- 10%.
PSU swapped for a Corsair RM550x.
Just did the PSU swap AND took pics of the claim I made regarding space in the case. Check them out.
My BIOS is up-to-date, so that shouldn't be a problem. But I would want a better motherboard for overclocking. This board is fine with its auto overclock settings, but I'd like to push things a bit harder if need be.
Definitely, although I'm debating whether to get the regular or the 2600X. I think the X would require a motherboard upgrade or a more substantial PSU upgrade. I'm not too sure at the moment.
A 2018 build featuring 2009 camera-phone quality. +1
The beauty of simple goals.
No problem. Are you thinking about getting a gaming laptop, at least? I definitely recommend one like the Dell Inspiron 15 7000 Gaming laptop if anything. It'll hold you for awhile during your studies. And its specs are similar to your build.
Yup. My final checklist is:
Corsair RM550x PSU, WD or Seagate 4TB HDD or higher, and an AMD Ryzen 5 2600.
The PSU is already on its way, but getting the other two will take awhile since my money's tied up in another build right now.
Great build. Honestly, I'm kinda upset I saw this post now after I made a string of purchases the past few days. I'd have the hardest time passing this build up. Or at least most of the parts.
I was confused by the term >OPP , but it's the same as an OLP. I'm keeping an eye on power consumption as I'm waiting for a Corsair PSU I just ordered. At the moment, I'm still over 100W shy of its limit.
You'd have to remove the front panel to get past the 255mm limit, extending it to 285mm. I don't consider this a downside because Mini ITX builds are already limited in form factor. Increase room for the GPU length means decreasing height. You'd need a clear path and some powerful fans for a decent cooling solution. Micro ATX solves that issue.
Besides, I see no need for a GPU larger than the one I have with this build.
The case is excellent! I recommend removing all panels (except the front) so you can do a quick and clean installation. It's fairly straightforward to build in.
Thanks for the input!
I actually just ordered a Corsair RM550x PSU. In terms of power, I'm nowhere near its limit but I wouldn't want this to go nuclear on me once I do a CPU and HDD/SSD upgrade.
In terms of space, don't let the close ups fool you. I've got enough space to stack 2 Wii Consoles with a Switch or two on the side. The GPU is plenty snug, you can see I had space to tuck its power cable away. And temperature management is excellent. I'll post another pic so you can see how spacious it is compared to other ITX cases.
I like it because it's purple and over-the-top. My only question is: why name it Apocrypha? +1
Starting with the 8GB RAM I had good performance. 2,400MHz isn't the fastest, but their had been no issues whatsoever. Doubling that to 16GB only made processes run that much smoother. I saw the performance boost shine when running a game like Forza Motorsport 6, it ran much happier with the recommended 16GB RAM. That 1050Ti will run great on Med-High settings. My RX 560 4GB ran well, so your GPU should handle it fine.
It's not too bad a time for used/open-box products. I'm going into bidding wars over these kinds of things, but manufacturers like MSI have been dropping prices closer to MSRP. I say it's a shame for the RX VEGA cards, especially the 56.
Don't get me started on the RAM. I'm only OK with RAM prices because I haven't been actively paying attention since early 2012, when prices were similar for DDR3. Otherwise, I'm just as mad at their inflation. Especially when I saw GPUs at MSRP early last year and didn't make the preemptive purchase.
This is AMD's time to shine with their APUs, though. Imagine if this happened 4 years back with their earlier APUs? They'd have a better market share right now.
Yeah, I'm seeing 8GB models go for no less than $320 new, and that's with "sales" prices. I bought mine in like-new for $293. On Amazon they had 2 sellers selling it for $278 so I was kinda disappointed, but I got my 2400G for $140 so the trade-off brought me real close to MSRP.
You're talking about thumb screws? My build has those for all its panels, they're definitely great if you don't abuse them.
I'll definitely look into that case when I decide to build a beefier desktop. Thanks for the details!
Nothing a simple BIOS update couldn't fix.
So that's roughly a 45-55% increase over the 2200G, I'd estimate. Definitely worth looking into. Thanks.
And +1 for getting it. :D
No problem. Makre sure you install all drivers immediately, then flash your BIOS. I recommend saving each BIOS past F10 on a bootable flash drive just to be on the safe side.
Doesn't matter. This needs to go on PC Magazine, Corvette Magazine, AND Popular Mechanic.
Speaking of benchmarking, I'm getting some great numbers with the 580, though I can see some bottlenecking from the 2200G on High/Ultra Settings. Honestly, it's a marvel to behold.
Pretty much. It became a Cobra vs Corvette later on.
My initial build is so similar to this, it's cool. I recommend swapping the Intel 3165 wireless card with the 8265 if you're concerned with stability. The 3165 seems to be fine in my Dell laptop, but on this motherboard it's been unstable for me.
I see it can only hold up to a 170mm long graphics card. In that case, A GTX 1050Ti or RX 560 4GB would fit perfectly for a future GPU upgrade.
Nintendo's MO was cartridges and they spent their time and money getting back into it. The Switch was something they wanted to do for decades and they finally did it. It's silly they even bothered to discontinue the Wii, its sales were still strong and they could've toppled the PS2. Oh well. They pulled a GM and cancelled their Camaro just to keep the Impala alive.
I'm absolutely adding this to my parts list for when I decide to install my motherboard vertically. That case is a stunner. I also see your build aims toward future-proofing by incremental upgrades. Definitely like that. +1
Btw, that's a pretty beefy case you got there. How's the build quality?
Thanks for the feedback.
I've been curious about ASRock's boards, they have some interesting design language that definitely would be cool to have inside my case. Some of their features are pretty noteworthy as well. I got the GIGABYTE GA-AB350M Gaming motherboard for the mATX setup I'm currently building; I was plenty satisfied with the GA-AB350N Gaming WiFi ITX board.
That issue sounds like a BIOS issue, if anything. I'll look into that before making (yet another) motherboard purchase.
I honestly think that AMD could've made the 1400 and 2400G part of the Ryzen 3 line-up and left the 5 as a hexa-core line starting with the 1600/2600. I've got a benchmarking itch right now and I'm definitely looking at the beefier Ryzen 5 options. You can say curiosity killed this cat.
I've seen the RX 480 go for $250-$300, but I can't be bothered to go for that if I could get a 580 in the same range. Anytime I saw the 480 for less than $250 I found out it was used extensively. Or hasn't been tested. As much as I hate passing up deals, I don't like untested products.
Maybe? The rear doesn't look like a Z06. Unless they made the blacked-out tail light an option now.
Fortunately, my motherboard had the F10 BIOS pre-installed. That's the BIOS that introduced compatibility with Raven Ridge CPUs. It's a gamble based on reviews, so be cautious. If anything, just get an RMA order if you don't have the BIOS already installed.
From there, it's also a gamble per se: some BIOS updates are unstable on some motherboards, though it's never the exact same BIOS for everyone (except for F23d, that's a beta so far). That would depend on you CPU, I guess. For me, F10 seemed to start fine, but after upgrading to F22 after some Windows 10 resets (I was simply checking off every diagnostic option I had) I found that my F10 BIOS was unstable by comparison. I was getting crashes with that BIOS, so if your APU runs during your intial boot, I recommend having the latest BIOS installed immediately.
It's. So. Blue.
How do you sleep at night? +1
Cable management aside, this is a pretty competent build. Also, you can't go wrong with the PS4 and PC. You get a really beefy library between the two. +1