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Great AMD Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're using the AMD Ryzen 5 2600. The R5 2600 includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary. Since we aren't overclocking our CPU, the stock cooler will be sufficient in keeping temperatures acceptable.

Note: If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Great Intel Gaming Build Guide.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for ATX B450 chipsets and up to 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build, and it will automatically update with the best priced option as prices change.

Memory

For our memory, the parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-3000 and faster speeds, as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 500GB of space. We have also added a parametric filter for a 2TB mechanical drive for mass storage, such as extra games and videos. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to add or remove capacity to your heart's desire.

GPU

For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market and an absolute powerhouse. The GTX 1070 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like PUBG) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Shadow of War. It'll also handle Fortnite with zero issues. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1070 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

To keep the noise and temperatures down, we've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason. Note that smaller cards will be louder or hotter - or both.

Case

Our build will be housed in the black NZXT H500. This case features a tempered glass window and 2x front panel USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports. It can fit full length video cards and features a PSU shroud to keep your build looking cleaner. The H500 also contains quite a bit of cable management features, such as cutouts, bumps and tie-offs.

You can find white, black/blue, and black/red versions of the H500 as well.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Great Gaming Guide.

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Estimated Wattage: 279W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU ₹17765.00 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime ₹17765.00 Amazon India Buy
Motherboard
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: AMD B450
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
₹8499.00 ₹8499.00 Amazon India Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
₹14212.28 ₹14212.28 Amazon India Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 500 GB - 10000 GB
  • Type: SSD
₹7722.83 ₹7722.83 Amazon India Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2000 GB - 15360 GB
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
₹4500.00 ₹4500.00 Amazon India Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070
  • Length: 223 mm - 403 mm
₹41638.59 ₹41638.59 Amazon India Buy
Case
Power Supply ₹10395.00 ₹10395.00 Amazon India Buy
Total: ₹104732.70
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* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

Zenyio 31 points 2 months ago

lack of rgb = bad fps

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 4 points 1 month ago

Bet

imvegannow 1 point 10 days ago

yuss

thatboi12 1 point 4 days ago

Yep

anksuator 1 point 4 days ago

Buying a monitor will fix this problem

mlggeekmaster242 0 points 1 month ago

Just buy RGB 4Head

mr_cool998 2 points 13 days ago

Just eat the RGB 4Head

VezZz 9 points 2 months ago

I have almost same specs but it cost me about 1,1k because of import charges :(

rogdog56 9 points 2 months ago

Protips: Step 1: Next time you go to the United States on vacation, grab an extra suitcase. Step 2: Buy all your parts. Make sure the PSU is compatible with your country's voltage. You can either build there or wait. Step 3: If you did build the PC there use insta-pack while taking it back home. (Like NZXT in their BLD computers when you first unbox you see the expanded foam stuff) Step 4: Buy a 3 pronged computer cable from your local country for your power supply. Step 5: Profit?

TOXICMARKIE 4 points 1 month ago

import tariffs...

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Dark_LordJE 1 point 2 months ago

HA if i buy anything its going to cost me 20 times what im paying for thank god for what you have xD .like if i pay 1000$ its going to cost 7000 libyen denars without shipping shipping cost almost 1k

EvanMedi001 1 point 1 day ago

i live in morocco so its a similar case the pc parts market is almost extict in here, there is nothing wrong with with breathing life to a relativly capable hp or acer desktop using a modern gpu & psu

if u go the importing route, u can use sites like shopandship, it will cost you around 30-50% including imports but it still relativly cheaper then buying from a third party seller in your country as if the market is anything like morocco its just total ripoff

as for my personal case i went a grabed an i7 3770K+16gb of ram and a MB of the used market i slaped a gtx 970 in it also used, and called it a day it costed me around 600$ but atleast it performes withing 90% of modern hardware and was cheaper to assemble

ZachPlays 1 point 1 month ago

RIP

Weirdguy34 1 point 1 month ago

You live in canada? Because I was wondering whats the best way to buy parts in canada without import charges.

DoubleU159 2 points 1 month ago

Memory express will match the price by 10% of the difference between their price and the lowest price of a verified Canadian retailer. I order parts on amazon, however, for convenience (prime user).

Vodnikov 1 point 4 days ago

Buy from Canadian sites

deathraydave 2 Builds -4 points 2 months ago

I have basicly the same accept it was like 1200. idk why

Deihman 1 Build 5 points 2 months ago

It's because you decided to buy RAM when it was expensive and paid $90 for those Corsair fans. Next time, see how prices are trending and spend money on improving the quality of your parts rather than the looks. I'm not saying buying the fans or expensive RAM was a bad idea, just you could have gotten much better performance out of the same budget if you hadn't decided to buy them.

Chromazzz 1 point 1 month ago

You got ripped off of your ram and you got a cooler and a hard drive. I made a similar too except i used the same hard drive you used, except 16 gb of ram with 3000 speed for only $130 instead of $226. You also bought a cooler instead of using the stock cooler.

deathraydave 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

I have stock cooler

deathraydave 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Also thats how much ram was in January

Jimmmyjohnspizza 3 points 2 months ago

Also, is there an alternate case you would recommend? I would have to wait a month if I ordered from amazon and superbiiz has an extra $20 fee for shipping. I’m thinking of the corsair spec-02

deathraydave 2 Builds 5 points 2 months ago

Phanteks p400

papps1 1 point 2 months ago

Almost too many to choose was my problem. Figure out your priority and budget first and narrow down from there.

I was <$100, and quiet with no windows: so picked the Corsair 100R Silent Edition in the end.

Was the last thing I ordered for the build as couldn't decide....

RizzoTheRat 1 point 2 months ago

Any issues building in that 100R case? I'm thinking it suits my requirement well but several comments about cable management problems.

Panicmyth 2 points 2 months ago

I recommend a Phanteks P400S which you can find around the same price point quite commonly. This case however is what I personally am going to buy.

Groffeaston 1 point 1 month ago

I built my computer using the Corsair Carbide Series 200R case and it had Plenty of room for my needs. I definitely recommend that case! It is a Mid-size Tower case.

rogdog56 1 point 2 months ago

Meshify C TG, S340 Elite, Define C TG. S340 Elite and Define C TG for silence, Meshify C for spectacular airflow

eopest 9 Builds 1 point 18 days ago

I upgraded my SPEC-02 to a Ryzen R5-2600 a month ago... Take a look here and see if it'll work for you.

Okno13 0 points 1 month ago

if you went with the spec, rip you. no cable management. at all. i hate that motherfluffer. this case is better in most ways, including beauty <3

eopest 9 Builds 1 point 18 days ago

Don't know why you say that, my SPEC-02 upgrade cabling worked out just fine.

Rahs 3 points 2 months ago

Noob here: Will I be able to plug my LG 27" 4k monitor into this via display port? I have a mac too and want to be able to use the LG for both, just switching it from the PC to the mac.

Also, I may get a second, smaller monitor for web/etc browsing while playing. Should be fine?

Also, I'll likely use ethernet but may need to use the 5Ghz Wifi sometimes. Will this work or do I need a wifi adapter? If so any recommendations? Cat7 cable will be fine here?

Another super noob question - I don't have a keyboard. Will need to buy one separately? Figured so but just making sure.

Thanks

Deihman 1 Build 3 points 2 months ago

Yep, yep, yep, and yep.

Have some details.

Just FYI, the GTX 1070, while still a very good card, might have some trouble at 4K, so don’t forget about turning down game resolution if it becomes unplayable.

Multi-display setups are awesome, and should only affect performance an extremely minimal amount, if at all.

It depends on what you use your PC for and how fast your internet is. Personally, I’d recommend running on Ethernet the whole time, but if you really need WiFi capability, go for a cheapish PCIe WiFi card. I have a $35 ASUS one that has both WiFi and Bluetooth on it, so I can use my controller without having to plug it in. For cables, unless you have faster than gigabit networking, Cat5e will be plenty, so anything newer will just be for future proofing.

You’ll need a separate keyboard. If you’re going to be using your rig a lot for extended periods of time (although it’s just a better idea to get one anyways), I would very highly recommend a mechanical keyboard. If you can’t afford the premium for a high end one from Corsair or some other company, take a look around and see what people suggest. I have an e-element Z88 (I think anyways) mechanical keyboard. Don’t forget to also get a mouse and mouse pad!

ZaSeaDog 3 points 2 months ago

HOW DOES THIS GUY DO IT???? I'm honestly impressed for 1k this is a great build good job!!

gdonns17 3 points 1 month ago

The Current price of the build set me on alarm as to how it could be so low; and I see that the listed SSD is not really $12 on Newegg

hydrallus 2 points 1 month ago

Same with the card. It was off by $350

Jimmmyjohnspizza 2 points 2 months ago

What should I do about the fan cables since the motherboard has only one fan header? Also, is the RAM compatible since it’s DDR4 3000? The motherboard specs didn’t mention DDR4 3000being compatible.

SG_Foster 1 Build 5 points 2 months ago

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Jimmmyjohnspizza 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

The RAM will probably be able to run at 2666MHz, which is fast enough for most people, and you might even be able to overclock it a little to run at 3200MHz if you get lucky. Fortunately, second generation Ryzen processors and motherboards are compatible with more types and speeds of RAM than the first generation.

enagy72 0 points 2 months ago

So can you enable xmp on this mobo to get it up to 3000mhz

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Probably, although XMP may push it up to 3200MHz, which could create some instability because it’s higher than the rated speed of the RAM.

enagy72 1 point 2 months ago

If it does you can just time it down to 3000MHz, right?

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Yep, you should be able to in the overclocking settings.

papps1 2 points 2 months ago

I have everything for this build but went for a GTX 1080 instead. Would it be worth getting a better cooler for the CPU, or is the build still fairly 'balanced' ?

NokNokWhosThere 4 points 2 months ago

you don't need a new cooler for your cpu but if you're willing to put in a few bucks extra in, go ahead

DeadlyGhoul 1 point 2 months ago

Would you need any thermal paste for the stock cpu cooler?

Rocetmal 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

The stock Ryzen cooler comes with paste on it already

NokNokWhosThere 1 point 2 months ago

yes!

DemoniXGTT 1 point 16 days ago

i would suggest if your going to worry about upgrading your thermal paste on the stock cooler, to also upgrade the cooler... but its always good to have some extra thermal paste around for if you ever bother to change the thermal paste like you should every year or two (not completely necessary, but keeps it fresh and working at its best)

Deihman 1 Build 3 points 2 months ago

Check out what ptran1219 said a couple days ago:

"99% of people will not run into an issue where the difference between bottlenecking your GPU is due to an insufficient CPU cooler."

The only time a bad CPU cooler would affect performance is when the CPU gets hot enough to thermal throttle performance, making the CPU run at lower speeds than normal so it's not able to send data to the GPU fast enough. This CPU and stock cooler is perfectly fine, and even if it does thermal throttle a little, which it shouldn't at stock speeds, there still shouldn't be any, or very little, drop in GPU performance.

TL:DR

Fogettaboutit! It'll be fine.

MeIsNotYou 2 points 2 months ago

nice build

yung_oj 2 points 2 months ago

Im a rookie when it comes to PC building. I recently built a PC with these parts and after it was all put together the fans spin and the mobo lights up but I dont get a display. I've been at it for days looking up everything I can, ive unplugged everything and replugged them. still no display. Is there any solutions you guys would recommend?

Im using the hdmi port for the display if that matters at all

Deihman 1 Build 6 points 2 months ago
  1. Are you plugged into the graphics card or the motherboard? Since the 2600 isn’t an APU, the motherboard won’t give out any display.

  2. Are all your storage drives plugged in all the way? Each SATA interface needs both a power cable and a cable connecting it to the motherboard.

  3. Is your ram seated correctly? It takes a lot more force than you might think.

  4. Does the motherboard have diagnostic LEDs on it? If so, check the manual to see what they mean.

That’s all I can think up right now. If I remember anything else I’ll make sure to comment or add them to this post.

Cooldude1fifty 2 points 1 month ago

I had the same thing. Turns out that the case was blocking the connection by literally a hairs width when it was plugging in, so the cable wasn't plugged in all the way. Also don't forget about motherboeard standoffs. And if you haven't already, try to build it first outside of the case.

PrivatePengu 2 points 1 month ago

Hey ThoughtA, you forgot to add "ATX" to the parametric filter on the motherboard.

ConfusedPerson_01 2 points 1 month ago

I'm a total noob regarding building pcs or anything to do with them for that matter. How are the prices right now? I want to do this build but am not sure.

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

Well, the GPU prices are back down and with the launch of the 20 series cards, you can find the GTX 1070, which is still a great card for a couple dollars under MSRP. Now, what is more brought down is the 1070ti which can be found for $60 under MSRP! The only other component inflated is RAM, though not nearly as much as it was.

UnsupportedGPU 2 points 29 days ago

So today ive decided to build this PC as my first build. Ive currently bought the CPU, Case, and the Motherboard. Im planning to do some testing on it as far as Streaming Fortnite and other Mainstream games.

Sebebi 2 points 28 days ago

Nice!!! Good Luck!

Guap- 2 points 2 days ago

Does this case & build require any extra case fans or radiator? I'm newer to the pc building community and I have a very similar build I am thinking of buying.

ConfusedPerson_01 1 point 2 days ago

Well for this build i think the ones that come with the build work fine, if you have some different parts they may need more cooling.

cmbaue1 1 point 2 months ago

Would the the CPU bottleneck if I did this build but used a 1080 instead? First timer here.

Deihman 1 Build 3 points 2 months ago

It wouldn’t. You really shouldn’t be worrying about bottlenecking GPU performance with any CPUs that have 4 or more cores, regardless of hyperthreading or multithreading. You should be able to use a GTX 1080 to its full extent.

diamondpumpkin 2 points 2 months ago

Sadly, not always the case. I have a FX-8320 and a GTX 1060. I have a friend with the same GPU but he has an i7-6700k, he gets 150% more frames than I.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Oops! I meant to say any recent quad core CPU. Obviously, the FX-8320 and i7-6700k are very different when it comes to performance, even though they are both considered quad core CPUs (although the 8320 technically has 8 cores).

malarkey01 0 points 2 months ago

If you went with the GTX 1080 though, would you have to add a third party cooler (right now this just has stock cooler)?

And what about the PSU - would it need to be upgraded as well?

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

A third party cooler for what? The CPU won’t need a third party cooler to be able to run a GTX 1080 because the cooler only affects CPU temps, and most GPU stock coolers are decent enough that the only reason you would upgrade is for aesthetics.

As far as the PSU, the one on the list should be fine, because the GTX 1080 has a TDP of 180W, only 10W higher than the GTX 1070 on the list.

malarkey01 2 points 2 months ago

Ah ok. Thanks. Sorry for my naivety - I'm working on my first build so trying to learn it all.

So you are saying the stock cooler for the CPU is sufficient to run the GTX 1080.

So really, you could just switch out the 1070 for the 1080 and nothing else really needs to be changed. Interesting...Thanks

I'm actually looking at doing the i5 8400 build equivalent to this. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/t832FT/great-amd-gaming-build

ptran1219 4 points 2 months ago

99% of people will not run into an issue where the difference between bottlenecking your GPU is due to an insufficient CPU cooler. Even with a current generation 8th gen i3, you are unlikely to have exorbitant bottlenecking. Looking at your build right now in your saved part list, you have a great looking build for someone looking for a low maintenance long term gaming build.

Only thing I can say is you'll need a game drive, and you can save money on your GPU and PSU by finding a bundle here.

https://www.evga.com/products/featured-bundles.aspx

There is a 750w EVGA PSU + 1080 FTW for $500

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Yep! And just to clarify, the CPU cooler has no effect on the GPU. It only affects how hot the CPU runs.

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SafariLoading 1 point 2 months ago

no wouldnt think so

NokNokWhosThere 1 point 2 months ago

uhhhh I dont think so based on others with the same build.

rogdog56 1 point 2 months ago

No, I'm getting the same CPU with a 1070 ti (Basically a cheaper 1080) and have no concerns here.

SafariLoading 1 point 2 months ago

Good build but if I were to do it I would replace the 1070 with maybe a 1060 or 1050 ti to lower the price

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 2 months ago

You may be looking for the Modest Guide.

NokNokWhosThere 0 points 2 months ago

If you were to to that to cut corners maybe go down a cpu level

Matthew83 2 points 1 month ago

rx 570's/580's are better buys these days

trylaarsdam 2 Builds -3 points 1 month ago

No.... NVIDIA's cards are much better PPD than rx cards if you are willing to pay a tiny bit more. Even a 1060 crushes a 580

Deihman 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Actually, the 580 and 1060 6GB perform very similarly. While the 1060 is still better, they’re close enough that the 580 is a better buy due to its lower cost, ~$50-100 right now depending on the model.

jsilverstreak 3 points 1 month ago

They trade blows but the 580 does better in modern vulcan dx12 games.

rlowe123 1 point 2 months ago

Trying to build a PC for stock trading. This is all so confusing

Deihman 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

If it’s just for stock trading, maybe look at cheaper prebuilt systems rather than making your own. It’ll take the hassle out of trying to find compatible parts and building the system. This list is more of a guide for gaming PCs, so unless you’re gaming a lot you don’t need a ton of power.

Tarziel 1 point 2 months ago

Would this build be hindered with multi-monitors?

Deihman 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

It shouldn’t, unless you’re running multiple games at once. Displaying a screen take a lot less GPU power than rendering an environment or anything a game does. In my current PC I’m running dual monitors on an older GPU with no problems.

deathraydave 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Yes. I have this accept a 1600 not a 2600. Its really good

Matthew83 1 point 1 month ago

This build should be able to handle gaming on 3 1080p monitors.

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Really it can handle 3 1440p monitors with this GPU. I have a 1070ti and it runs 2 1440p monitors fine. As long as you have a GPU that pushes 60fps on your main screen in a game your other screens will run just fine if you have enough DP connectors (on a 1070 you have 3 so you’d be perfectly fine)

Matthew83 1 point 1 month ago

I meant 3 monitors in surround display

Jhonan 1 point 2 months ago

Right now you can get a 1070Ti for the exact same price from Dell.

deathraydave 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Dell :/

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

Or like if you spend more than 5 seconds searching you can buy it from a credible source for GPUs for even less.

Jhonan 1 point 1 month ago

It was a flash deal... You might have noticed if you read the date. It would have taken less than 5 seconds.

jiert 1 point 2 months ago

I haven't built a PC in a decade, so pardon any ignorance, but could I get away with the single SSD and ditch the disc drive?

NerdyTurd 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, definitely. As long as you don't use DVDs/CDs/disks and only need the 500GB you're good to go. :)

daviddmarsh 1 point 2 months ago

What would the benefit be to buying 3200 RAM over 3000?

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Nothing. You can OC your ram to 3200mhz on a 3000mhz kit

Matthew83 2 points 1 month ago

When you OC your RAM beyond its rated speed you, also usually increase your cas latency. So the 3000mhz kit OC'd to 3200mhz will probably also have its CL increased from 16 to 17, where as the 3200mhz kit should be able to run that speed without an increase in its CL. The difference in gaming performance will probably only be a frame or two, but it's still a difference.

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

And there is like a very small chance you’d notice it since 1 or 2 frames is within margin of error, so I’d be surprised if there would even be a benchmark score decrease. Increasing the speed of the ram would result in a performance increase that is small, but more than what you'd loose to higher CL. Otherwise people wouldn’t oc ram.

heyscot 1 point 2 months ago

I saw the comment below about the motherboard only having one fan connector. Since the motherboard listed would take such a long time to ship to me, I splurged and got the Aorus Gaming Motherboard B450 Pro WiFi instead. It has at least two fan connectors, so I was surprised to read the original mobo had only one.

I'm a little confused about the fans included with the case, because they have three-pin connectors and the motherboard fan pins are four pins each. They have a tiny piece of plastic above the right three pins, however, so I just stuck them on that way and left the 4th pin on the motherboard open.

I've assembled everything so far and I'm just waiting on the processor to arrive today. The case is pretty neat in how it allows you to manage your cables and how it provides you with different mounting options for the hard drives.

I'm also a little confused by the RAM placement. There are four slots for RAM; I'm not sure if you have to place the memory in specific slots in order for it to work correctly so I just placed the RAM in the two right-hand slots (if you're looking through the tempered glass at your build). The manual as usual wasn't the greatest so I'm hoping this will work.

If there's anyone out there who reads this and knows that I'm going to blow up my rig as soon as I power it on the first time, I'd be much obliged for your technical know-how at this point. Thanks guys! Hope you're all good!

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 2 months ago

You're on the right track so far! That plastic bit is a "key" to make you plug the 3-pin fan into the correct 3 pins of the 4-pin connector. You are, indeed, supposed to leave one of the 4 pins open in your case.

You'll want to check your motherboard manual for RAM installation. It will tell you which slots to plug in to enable dual-channel.

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PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

What are you on about? His motherboard is perfectly capable of overclocking.

Furio_ 1 point 2 months ago

Nice build. Dont really use Ryzen but still good.

JLE714 1 point 2 months ago

I bought the CPU, MOBO, and RAM from this guide. The problem I have is that when I put the memory in the Dual Channel slots, Windows 10 show 16 GB (only 7.95 usable). If I put the RAM in the adjacent slots and run it single channel, then Windows 10 shows 16 GB. I have no idea why its doing this, I tried different memory and it still had this problem. I tried to enable XMP but the computer would not boot up. It won't even go into BIOS, I had to remove the battery to reset. Is there something I'm missing here?

JLE714 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks to Gigabyte support for giving me a list of things to try. Reseating the CPU did the trick!

Janech 1 point 2 months ago

I've been putting together this build and am getting an UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP error when I try to install Windows 10 Pro from a flash drive. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing it? Maybe a bad motherboard? Looking around online the only relevant tip that I could find was that faulty memory could cause the error. I tried both of my memory modules individually and got the same results.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Your CPU might not be playing well with the memory. If you’ve tinkered with the bios, try resetting it and see if it makes a difference. If not, try reseating the CPU. If that still doesn’t work, you might need to return the memory and get a different pack.

Noogzy 1 point 2 months ago

What would be the difference between using a B450 vs an X470 mobo?

Matthew83 1 point 1 month ago

x470 mainly has better power delivery for higher and more stable overclocks, but they also tend to have more fan headers, more usb headers, and more sata connections, a better bios with more overclocking features. But the main difference is better overclocking and more robust bios.

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 0 points 1 month ago

Being able to overclock is a big feature. Also you’ll likely get higher end WiFi if you get a board with WiFi, most likely sli support, and more headers for basically everything

Matthew83 1 point 1 month ago

You can overclock with B350/B450, too.

trylaarsdam 2 Builds -1 points 1 month ago

Uhh no you can't

Matthew83 2 points 1 month ago

Uhh yes you can dude. It's the Axxx mobos that don't let you OC

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

You might be thinking of LGA 1151 boards. Because Intel is weird, you can only overclock on Z170/270/370 boards and not on any other chipset. With AM4, both X370/470and B350/450 can overclock, just the X motherboards are a bit better at it. The AM4 chipset that can’t overclock is the A320.

hamsterboy 1 point 2 months ago

Noob here. I may need a wifi for our current setup in our apartment. With that, should I buy a different motherboard with wifi or just a wifi adapter? If motherboard with wifi, what would you recommend on this build? if wifi adapter, anything particular? Using it for gaming (primary) and work/other stuff like excel, visio, photoshop, vegas pro (secondary).

Thanks!

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

If you can, try running an Ethernet cable from your router to your motherboard. That’ll get you the lowest latency. If you can’t, buy a cheapish PCIe WiFi adapter like this one, which I had running on my system till I switched over to Ethernet.

Crewger45 1 point 2 months ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mjd9nH

IMO this build works much better.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

While it might be better for your budget, it definitely isn’t as powerful. The Radeon RX 580, which is one of the best price to performance cards on the market, gets trumped by the much more powerful GTX 1070. While they have the same amount of VRAM, the 1070’s higher number of shader units and special NVIDIA architecture allows it to have substantially higher performance than the RX 580. Supposedly though, Radeon cards play more nicely with AMD CPUs than with Intel, but I haven’t had any experience with this.

Crewger45 2 points 1 month ago

I agree with your assessment. I value the addition of NVMe, BT, Wifi, faster RAM for the same price with only a 5% GPU overall hit. Add to this freesync support and the value increases. Great performance at 1080p, 60Hz. Just my opinion. I think it would be a very interesting test to head to head these 2 builds in several gaming benchmarks and take the average and see how far apart they are. Would 200mhz in ram speed and NVMe drive have any affect at all on gaming performance? Real data vice opinions would be very interesting.

hydrallus 1 point 1 month ago

Benchmarks right here. If you only play WoW and PUBG you’re good lol but dang that is a huge jump. Also a huge price difference so I’d not call them very comparable:

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-580/3609vs3923

Crewger45 2 points 1 month ago

If I'm playing at 1080p 60hz is there a perceivable difference between 201fps and 173fps?

hydrallus 1 point 1 month ago

Lol idk.

Would be if you increase the refresh rate though so I imagine it’s for that.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Nope. FPS is how fast the game is refreshing, and Hz is how fast your monitor refreshes. It would just look like a constant 60FPS if you’re playing with a 60Hz monitor.

ten8yp 5 Builds 1 point 29 days ago

Absolutely NVME will have an affect on gaming... nvme is going to make a massive difference in LOAD times. Not to mention, make your normal computer usage much snappier in regular tasks, opening/closing programs, etc. and even MORE difference when moving large files (video editing, downloading large games, etc)

Generally there is a $20-$40 difference between buying a good sata ssd (samsung 860 evo 500GB - $80, crucial, etc) and an decent nvme drive (Adata XPG XS8000 512GB MLC - $104.99 on Amazon right now. (Its faster than the Samsung 970 evo and $35 less.)

Its worth every penny of the difference between buying a sata SSD if you ask me. But its becoming a pretty classic debate. Basically... if you're going to BUY an ssd of some kind... get the nvme m.2. Its a no-brainer. But, if you already have a GOOD Sata3 ssd you're probably fine saving the money and spending it towards something else.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

It has a significantly worse PSU, a NVME drive that is of little to no benefit for a gaming build, it has a much worse GPU, it has less storage too. All while costing more.

Crewger45 1 point 1 month ago

I have wondered if NVMe drives are really necessary in a high end gaming build or not? Obviously they do not increase FPS. Do they decrease load times in different areas of a game? Do they make game play more enjoyable? I doubt it. Would a good SATA 3 SSD be enough?

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

SATA 3 would probably be enough. While putting games on an NVMe drive VS a standard SATA 3 SSD might decrease load times by a little bit, it’s definitely a MUCH smaller difference than an HDD VS an SSD. SATA 3 should be perfectly fine for almost everything, even though it’s capped at about a sixth of the maximum (on the $400+ models) read speeds of NVMe. If you can afford an NVMe drive, go ahead, but if you want to make the PC cheap, go with a SATA drive.

On a side note, just go with a 1070 or 1070 ti. They’re both better enough than the RX 580 to justify the extra cost.

Crewger45 1 point 1 month ago
Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

A mini ITX motherboard in a mid tower isn’t a good idea, and it’s a pretty bad waste of space. If you want a small build, smaller micro ATX/ mini ITX cases are generally less expensive than normal ATX cases. Otherwise, go with the motherboard on this build guide.

preezy 1 point 2 months ago

Is this build better than the msi trident 3 i7 ( not the white one )

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Yes

maxakipust 1 point 2 months ago

I just built this build, but when I turn it on, nothing displays on my monitor and the power button doesn’t work to turn it off. Do you guys have any idea what I’m doing wrong?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Have you plugged the GPU all the way in? Checked cables and connectors? CPU seated correctly? plugged the videocable into the GPU?

deathraydave 2 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

Check your front header connectors. Make sure you plugged into the GPU and not the motherboard

KittyCatKane 1 point 2 months ago

Will this be sufficient for streaming

Deihman 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

It definitely should be. Depending on what you’re streaming and what type of encoding you’re using, you might be able to get 1080p 60fps. I have this CPU paired with a GTX 970 and I’m easily able to stream games like Borderlands 2 at those speeds while using x256 CPU encoding.

gigglepig_buster 0 points 2 months ago

it would probably be fine for 720 streaming, but nothing above (I think)

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

It can definitely stream 1080p30 or even 60 depending on your WiFi or internet

stiphen 1 point 2 months ago

Cool!

gigglepig_buster 1 point 2 months ago

do I need to add a wireless card?

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

If you can’t run Ethernet to your PC, yeah. There are quite a few decent ones for relatively cheap.

Ethor_L 1 point 2 months ago

WTH how did you make it 100$ with a 1070ti :P

Adaley03 1 point 2 months ago

Do you have to get windows 10 separately

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

yup

Peppy_A 1 point 2 months ago

I am considering buying this. I have several questions. First one is: Will this be able to run forza horizon 4 on low graphics? Here are the system requirements https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/forza-horizon-4-standard-edition/9PGSK5G6N31X?activetab=pivot:regionofsystemrequirementstab

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah, maybe not at 4K60 but at 1440 and 1080 you’ll get 60fps+

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vakri16 1 point 1 month ago

Does it have a Lan and Wifi cards as well ?

dan779778 1 point 1 month ago

Custom build

Jimbino 1 point 1 month ago

would anyone care to take a look at my build and give me there opinion?

hydrallus 1 point 1 month ago

Filter is pulling some bad data on the SSD saying it’s $11? It’s $210 on Newegg.

Same with GPU 472 not 129

DVision42 1 point 1 month ago

Got a very similar system myself - nice build for the money.

tatterdemalion 1 point 1 month ago

Forgive the noob question, but why do i want a regular HDD and an SSD. I know why SSD is better, but why the extra HDD?

Matthew83 2 points 1 month ago

For extra storage. SSD is good for using as a boot drive, and for your favorite apps and games, but it's extra speed is wasted if you use it to save movies, pictures, word docs or install files. It's a good idea to download a program installer to your hdd, then install it to your ssd.

nostalgia2302 1 point 1 month ago

The build is great. I have no complaint at all, and I even feel a little bit jealous.

This is my similar build and as you can see, for roughly the same price, you got a better video card. This is partly due to my decision to go with more expensive RGB RAM, Case, Motherboard, a needed Wi-Fi adapter and a MicroATX build which sometimes can be more expensive.

My reason of choice for the mobo was temps. I watched a video comparing different B450 ATX mobos and I got scared with the Asus and Gigabyte temps. Asrock was okaish and MSI mobos came with the best temps. Got me sold on the brand.

I spent about $138 more on those components. I however have no regrets. The RX 580 came with a promotion gift of 3 games worth $150, elevating the value rate of the card to $379 from the $229 I got it for.

Kuddos to you. Keep up the good work.

Zonafer 1 point 1 month ago

For $20 more (On the Canadian site), you could invest in a STRIX 1070 Ti, which looks and cools way better, imo. The only limit is overclocking because NVidia decided to lock voltages. :/

slyphantomxd 1 point 1 month ago

I just made a build with a 1080, 16 gigs of ram, a ryzen 5 2600, and I went short on nothing everything is good. it costs $4.00 less than your builds price. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j9NtNQ

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Slow RAM, less storage. The slower RAM will definitely result in lower frame rates, even though you’re including a 1080. The reason is Ryzen’s Infinity Fabric, which links the separate CPU cores together, runs at memory speeds. On average, a step up, even from 2133 to 2400MHz, will grant you about another 10 FPS, at least with the 1080. You definitely did go short on objectively the two most important parts of a Ryzen PC.

TL:DR

Ram is too slow, not enough storage. It won’t run as well as you think it will.

slyphantomxd 1 point 1 month ago

crap ill go for a higher speed ram, but the storage is perfectly fine for me I don't use a lot of storage, all I need is an SSD for windows and a few games and a one terabyte hard drive. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t2QJTB new fixed build

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Looks good, but I would go with a B450 motherboard because a lot of B350 motherboards don’t have out of the box support for Ryzen 2. There are quite a few $70 ish b450 motherboards like this one, but you might want to extend your motherboard budget and get a $100+ one.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

I thought of a few more things to save you money!

First of all, you should use the HDD for game storage, even though putting it on an SSD might help load times. Also, if you plan to spend $60 on an HDD anyways, get this one from Seagate, because it’s the same speed and twice the storage for the same price. Barracuda is also one of Seagate’s better storage options. If you don’t think you need that much space, there’s also this one from WD. Same speed, less storage.

Unless you’re downloading tons of stuff or using lots of programs, you can probably get away with a 120GB SSD for a boot drive. More options are you can spend much less on a 240-256GB 2.5” SSD from a company like Team, ADATA, or Kingston, or you could spend about another $10-20 for a 500GB 2.5” SSD from Team or ADATA.

One thing you should know is that while Team might be cheaper than ADATA or Kingston, their storage nodes aren’t quite as premium as most other SSD manufacturers’, so while ADATA’s or Kingston’s SSDs might last around 5-6 years, Team might fail in 4. This really isn’t a huge cause for concern, however, because by then SSD prices should have fallen more and they would be easy and cheaper to replace.

Boieman 1 point 1 month ago

i swapped the cpu for an intel core i3 8350k and added this nice rgb liquid cooler for 60$ this is going to probably be the pc i build this christmas https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MnNdJ8 also can this support vr because im hoping to get an htc vive a couple of months aftterwards

Deihman 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

If you’re buying the 8350K MAKE SURE to get a Z370 motherboard. The K on the 8350K means it has an unlocked multiplier, which means you can overclock the CPU and squeeze even more performance out of it. Unfortunately, the only Intel motherboard chipset that can overclock is the Z-series. While it might be a little more expensive for a Z370 than a B360, it’s definitely worth it.

Also, get an ATX motherboard. Your case is an ATX mid tower and can fit an ATX motherboard inside. A micro ATX or mini ITX is a waste of space in an ATX tower.

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

Yes the GTX 1070 can handle your VR needs. Also, your i3 is unlocked, but the mobo you chose is not overclockable, if you want to overclock, a z370 mobo is needed.

adrianmunoz123 1 point 1 month ago

Building this right now. anyone know where the sata port is ??

GetBombarded 1 point 1 month ago

Hello, i have a few questions, would this be able to handle streaming? What kind of games could I play on this...? people say to never put a nvidia with a amd processor... im really confused.

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

This could definitely handle streaming with a 6 core cpu and can play any game in 1080 and even some games in 1440. The myth of never put an amd cpu with an nvidia gpu is completely false as well as intel cpu with amd gpu is false.

FatBoyJD 5 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

My latest build cost $990.70, admittedly from insane bargain hunting for a 750W Corsair PSU, Vega 64, and 2700X. A motherboard swap (using Gigabyte AB-350N-Gaming) to the B450 I or even a discounted ASUS ROG Srix X470-I would bump that past $1000, though a 3GHz RAM upgrade would bring it down to the price of this suggested build.

Edit: The price of this Build Guide is basically a challenge for me to build a high-end gaming ITX under $1000. I plan to meet it head-on.

PcBuildderr 1 point 1 month ago

wow. In my opinion, that is just perfect build for that cost. 101/10 ))) In euro that's only 800€. The only problem is, this NZXT case is a bit overpriced. Still perfect build (Sry for my bad English)

knk133 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

So do featured guides ever change? Like this one has been up on the front page for a little over a month. Personally I would go with this build I put together. (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3RpV6). Just due to the fact that you get a better gpu for only about 20 dollars more. Yes this build doesn't have as much storage, but you could probably easily get a 2tb drive for around the same price as that 1tb I selected. There is NOTHING wrong with the pc ThoughtA has put together here, it would be able to chew through modern games no problem, but I would opt for a 1070ti/1080 and less storage if it meant getting more performance out of my hardware.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

The RAM on your build is slower than the one on this part list, and because of Ryzen’s infinity fabric, CPU performance will suffer. And while I agree that a 1070 ti or 1080 would be better, a 1070 ti has better price to performance than the 1080, even at these lower prices.

knk133 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

You could probably get better ram for around the same price. Just was trying to prove a point, also if you are willing to go used you can get a 1070ti for 300-350. I got my Asus ROG Strix 1070ti for 340 used.

Ken08191 1 point 1 month ago

Guys i love Pc's and gaming but i barely know anything about them and i was wondering how well this would run games like: Rainbow six siege, Pubg, csgo, fortnite, and forza? i would appreciate it if someone can help me figure out how this pc would run those games thank you!

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

runs everything ez, if you want specific fps just look at 1070 benchmarks

t34mr0ck3t 1 point 1 month ago

I had to change few things for my build, that is close to this as much as possible. Because cheapest way possible to make this was through a website that is closest and cheapest for me. Parts: CPU and Motherboard same here, GPU (already bought, was on sale) 1070 Windforce 8GB -G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory -Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive -Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive -Corsair - VS 550W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply -Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300P MicroATX Mini Tower Case

This will be my first build, If there is anything wrong with this selection, please let me know.

Deihman 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Can you attach a link to the part list?

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Looks good! However, I wouldn't recommend the MasterBox Q300P just because the airflow is pretty limited thanks to the acrylic panel on the front. You might want to get the Q300L because it has better airflow and is $20 cheaper. If it doesn't match what you're looking for, check around on here and make sure to look up case reviews if you find one you like.

t34mr0ck3t 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you very much for your input. I will add that to my list.

pdogobluda 1 point 1 month ago

Can you overclock the motherboard?

tylerzipz 1 point 1 month ago

Really liking this build! This could easily support any VR (rift, vive) correct?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, definitely.

DrummerAJL 1 point 1 month ago

But you didn't build it!

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 1 month ago

It's a guide, not a build. Though we do build many of our guides and put out videos of them.

mejohns9 1 point 1 month ago

I'm a little confused by the 3000+ ram. The CPU says it supports 2933. Is the CPU able to utilize the full speed of the ram if its overclocked?

ITGM 1 point 1 month ago

I would change one of the HDD to SSD, the rest is fine with good price. I have 1070-ti & 8600K with 970 EVO 500GB as SSD, it cost me more but worth :)

ArtyomCZ 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Why you don't choose Ti version of gpu?

Protons 1 point 1 month ago

The Ryzen chip you have selected for this build, is it more powerful than an i5 3570K?

Jimbino 1 point 1 month ago

would this build bottleneck a 1080?

mannad85 0 points 1 month ago

NO! lol Ryzen 5 2600 (Clock speed at 100%) with GeForce GTX 1080 (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce only 0.001% of bottleneck.

Ryzen 5 2600X (Clock speed at 100%) with GeForce GTX 1080 (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce only 0.58% of bottleneck.

These results are not calculations but really just a benchmark from different users. So in a nutshell, no it probably won't bottleneck.

https://thebottlenecker.com/calculator

Jimbino 1 point 1 month ago

thanks!

Majorkamo 1 point 1 month ago

I'm making a amd build for my friend and was wondering if anyone had any comments on this idea before we make it final. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDhZGG

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

only adjustment i would make is to get duel channel 2x4 ram for just a few extra dollars.

adamtlee 1 point 1 month ago

Building this one! Will post completed build when all parts arrive. Excited, this is my first ever solo build! Any tips from anyone for the build? Anything I should look out for in particular? Thank you! :)

mannad85 2 points 1 month ago

Look out for extra fans for your case... and you don't have to use the case he picked. Its best practice to buy all the parts at once so you can send them back if they are malfunctioning. If you upgrade to a Ryzen 5 2600x its about 40$ more but comes with a better CPU cooler in box i.e. a 10 dollar difference in a potential upgrade of 7% more processing power. However, both CPU stock coolers are actually rated pretty well. Take a look at the X470 motherboards. Some are not much more expensive, rated well, but what is good about them is that they are a little more streamlined for the Ryzen chips and will likely have better bios updates.

adamtlee 1 point 1 month ago

Wow, thank you so much for this input! Also, another question: do you think that the upgradability on this machine will be good enough to last me 3-4 years?

mannad85 2 points 1 month ago

Well, it depends heavily on what games you like to play. Its all about FPS. 30 frames per second is the optimal smoothness of gameplay, although 60 or higher is preferred. This is because FPS is not constant. It drops and spikes depending on what is happening in the game and even the server you play on if you are playing something like Ark or another demanding MMO type game. 60 is preferred because it gives you 30 FPS of optimal buffer zone, at least that is how I understand it. This particular build benchmarks extremely well. You will probably hit over 100 in most games. The great part is that the drivers are well developed too. This build can last you another 4 years easily and then some. If you go with a X470 MB, it supports SLI, meaning you can add another 1070 somewhere down the line. The new motherboard will really stretch the distance of this build. Again "future proof" and upgradeability are just terms that depend on what you want to do. If you are talking state of the art VR, I would say maybe not and maybe. That Ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x are really great CPUs. Get the newer X470 motherboard.

LordVader2100 1 point 1 month ago

Noob here: do I need to add any extra air or water cooling system to this build?

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

no, the cpu comes with a stock cooler, which is good unless you are over clocking the cpu, then you need a cpu cooler

Ignu 1 point 1 month ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ignu/saved/YdCZRB Could someone give me their thoughts on this list? Is the motherboard good?

KennySTi 1 point 1 month ago

Would this be good for 144fps@1080 on most games?

Ignu 2 points 1 month ago

I think so i just bought it and the parts are coming in.

KennySTi 2 points 1 month ago

let me know how it goes, about to buy the parts as well.

t34mr0ck3t 1 point 1 month ago

Tactical dot.

LordVader2100 1 point 1 month ago

Do I also need to buy a wireless internet card(WiFi) or is this included in one of the parts?

Sebebi 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, you will need to buy a Wireless Network Card or a different motherboard with WiFi (usually says so in the name)

JaronHop 1 point 1 month ago

What CPU cooler should I get with this build?

Inglix 1 point 1 month ago

That CPU comes with a stock cooler. Unless you're planning to overclock you shouldn't need more than that.

Georgesummy 1 point 1 month ago

You linked the entry-level Intel guide, not the Great Intel Guide. Just a heads up :)

mannad85 1 point 1 month ago

I think you could get a little more out of it if you upgraded to a GTX 1080 (more future proof and less than $100 more, and a Ryzen 5 2600X (7% speed increase, better in-box cooler which means you might not need a cooler, I would switch the MB out for a X470 as the BIOS updates will come more frequently. Also, go with a 1TB HHD and get a 250GB M2 SSD for the system boot. You are maybe incurring about $100-150 bucks in additional cost if done right. GTX 1070 cards didn't see the price drop that GTX 1080 did, and GTX 1080 cards probably have a little more room to drop in the future as the RTX cards gain traction.

mannad85 1 point 1 month ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V97Dhy

I think you are forgetting some incidental costs in there that will drive up the cost. I realize that some people can recycle parts from PCs on hand, such as HHD and SSD and optical drive.

I like where your head is at. I think AMD Ryzen 5 is a competitive CPU line to build a value/ultrasettings/60fps gaming computer. Your build is one of the best I have seen.

Jakeap38 1 point 1 month ago

Lol I just made this nearly exact build without even seeing it

danger_muffin 1 point 1 month ago

I was considering building my own for my son and I.

I found a pre built on amazon on sale for $699.99. It's a cyberpowerPC and seems to run every game so far just fine (we play fortnite and some a couple sports games occasional first person) I've read that upgrading these pre built pc's is limited though as the company doesn't allow it. Also, I'd rather build something together with him for the learning experience we'd both get.

Here's the specs for the pre built. We've only had it for a few days, still available to return

CPU - I5 8400 6 core processor GC - AMD RX 580 4GB

8GB RAM

IR0NM4N 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks! Just ordered most of these parts... found the 1070Ti for the same price....this will be my first build and my first desktop ever...I have been on a Laptop since my first computer back in high school (25 years ago...) since my work provides me with the 2018 MacBook Pro figured I need to have the better graphics for Call of Duty 4 Blackops....than I can get with windows on my macbook pro....

my build based off of this... https://pcpartpicker.com/user/IR0NM4N/saved/#view=sNV299

RickNasty117 1 point 1 month ago

Oh man I am in the exact same situation! Been on a laptop since middle school and work gave me a Macbook Pro 15 inch that I bootcamped. It's been working great for Fortnite, Overwatch, and Rocket League (the games I play most), but I think it's time to bite the bullet for Blackops 4 or risk playing on XBox.

TimmyJan 1 point 1 month ago

this is great

LordVader2100 1 point 1 month ago

Does this support Linux?

Freckles183 1 point 1 month ago

the link at the bottom (for the great Intel build) leads to the entry level intel guide

oseas 1 point 1 month ago

I followed this guide to make my first build a couple of days ago (with a few adjustments) and so far I'm pretty satisfied with what I've got. I'm not savvy enough to say whether or not it's good value for money - though I saw a similar prebuild that cost about 25% more than the sum of parts - but I think I did well. Found a 1070Ti on sale that was cheaper than 1070s, so I went for it.

I was hesitating to buy a PC (and PC parts) for half a year since I wasn't satisfied by cost relative to performance. At first I was using logical increments and following their "great" selection while trying to get all my parts from one vendor. Sat on my hands for half a year waiting for price drops, then eventually went to part picker and saw your guide. What I saw here was more convincing, and bought my parts a day later.

LordVader2100 1 point 1 month ago

How much do you think the price will fall for Black Friday/cyber Monday?

ten8yp 5 Builds 1 point 29 days ago

GREAT build ThoughtA! Bout the best computer on earth for $1000 and I will HIGHLY suggest it to people. Thanks for the write up!

JB25226 1 point 29 days ago

I'm new to PC customisation, any advice for parts I should grab for a PC to run Rust?

IHackedAppleAnDYoUTUbe 1 point 29 days ago

I recommend buying a PC from us [ANONYMOUS]

aieieieiie 1 point 28 days ago

Why would you get a 3000MHz RAM when the motherboard supports 2133 / 2400 / 2666 / 2933 / 3200? Currently I have https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb in my build so I was wondering if I should change to the RAM of this build or if i should stick to the one currently in my build. Sorry if this is a stupid question pretty new to this

Sebebi 1 point 28 days ago

The RAM that you have is actually going to give you better performance than in this guide, so definitely stick with yours.

aieieieiie 1 point 28 days ago

Thanks a lot!

thejedimex 1 point 28 days ago

Would this build play world of Warcraft at 60fps on a 34 inch widescreen monitor?(non 4k) And be able to connect an extra 27 inch on the side. I have never build an amd pc. Thanks in advance.

bigsosa 1 point 28 days ago

Solid build

BigBudgetDude 1 point 27 days ago

Hello, I was wondering if I could use https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HDMFRZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 instead of the battery in the list as it saves about $20 I would also like to know if I could use https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072WLQTCM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10GIQVUTYZMGS&psc=1 Instead of the Hdd in the list as its the same price and has 3tb instead of 2, its dimensions are also the same 3.5 so yeah. Note: As a finale and sort of stupid question, would it be ok if I used the white version of the case instead of the black. I just like white more (:

rosepage 1 point 27 days ago

I was planning on installing 3 fans in my case. Since this mobo only has 1 fan header, can I use a splitter to power all 3 fans from the one header?

keems868 1 point 27 days ago

what is streaming like on this set up??

ConfusedPerson_01 1 point 2 days ago

depends what you want to stream, it wouldnt be horrible for simple games but this isnt really good enough to handle some more serious streaming

keems868 1 point 1 day ago

even if overclocked to 4.0-4.2?

Aguadracon 1 point 26 days ago

I just completed this build and everything works great, except for the audio. I've tried all the Aux ports and they all have bad quality. Am i missing drivers or did i do something wrong. The drivers on the website of the motherboard didn't fix it.

Aguadracon 1 point 24 days ago

Also the mix doesn't work. All the settings in Windows are correct

_technoblade 1 point 26 days ago

you can get a used 1080 for less than a new 1070

zMigz 1 point 24 days ago

Hello ThoughtA, thank you for the great build and insight, love to read your comments. Could you please suggest a monitor for this build ? Thank you

Sebebi 1 point 24 days ago

I say at least any good 1080p 144hz monitor. And if higher resolution is your thing then the 1070 can def handle 1440p.

pcguy070605 1 point 23 days ago

£1000 and it doesn't even have an x470 motherboard SMH MY HEAAAAD

Duct-Tape 1 point 23 days ago

Hello, quick question. I am building my first PC for two purposes: gaming and as a work station (CAD & such). From what i heard for stuff like cad, the more cores the better. So would it hurt to through a Ryzen 7 1700 on this? I am also wondering why you did not, considering its only 20 bucks more.

Duct-Tape 1 point 23 days ago

here is a link to my build if you care to take a look https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/edit/?userbuild=ZxCbt6

jeowilson 1 point 21 days ago

you posted your edit link, this is the correct link. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxCbt6

coolest834 1 point 21 days ago

so i am a 100 percent noob at this so..... if the ssd is fast i was reading in the comments that downloading games is easier with said ssd attached also frame rates are better too why do you need the 2,5tb hdd then if every thing goes on ssd?

jeowilson 1 point 21 days ago

I didn't build my new PC rather I bought a new prefab'd gaming desktop. I found it to be about 300 dollars cheaper than buying individual/custom parts. After much shopping I finally decided on a decent gaming rig with the bare minimums for about 700 dollars where the part list is about 1000-1200 depending on supply and demand. My first rig was a custom build and then it was cheaper to build your own. Why is it that we are paying more now? We used to have the advantage even over wholesalers. Below is my parts list. Its not horrible, I can play all the latest and greatest in high-epic settings and it is VR ready and yes I am overclocking the CPU with the board defaults so I'm at 3.4Ghz with 2400MHz DDR4. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vMsXdX

DaoNayt 1 point 21 days ago

these prices are impossible to get in most of europe :( am shopping for a R5 2600/rx 580/8GB RAM build and $1000 is the bare minimum.

BigBudgetDude 1 point 20 days ago

the price is going up...

rogdog56 1 point 19 days ago

Limit the hdd to 7200 rpm, 5400 and below is terribly slow and I don't know how well it'd go. For 4 dollars more, surely that is something we can allow for! (Rhyming is purposeful) :)

Krek 1 point 19 days ago

I don't think you should use parametric filters for motherboards and SSDs. You can't filter for the quality of motherboard components, BIOS features, NAND, or SSD controllers. So you can't be sure that you will get something that is actually good.

Filtering like this might make sense for a super low budget build. But you shouldn't get parts of dubious quality when you are spending 1k on a PC.

You should use a parametric selection of known good parts like you did with PSUs

Fir3Kuna 1 point 18 days ago

thats actually pretty nice

SovietAndrew 1 point 17 days ago

Great price may be in the future

Maiqs 1 point 17 days ago

Could I build this without a gpu and add one later?

jokrage 1 Build 2 points 14 days ago

No, not with the ryzen 5 2600. You would need a processor with an integrated gpu, like the 2200G or 2400G (both are weaker than the 2600), or most intel cpus. If you really need a functioning PC asap then you could buy a cheap/used low profile gpu like the GT 730.

BoreasD 1 point 16 days ago

If i upgraded the ram to (2x16 GB DDR4-3000) would there be any problems and if not what sticks should i buy ? i have taken a look at the https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M%20Pro4/index.asp#Memory charts here but still confused on what will work. thanks for the help :)

jokrage 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

The MSI ARMOUR cards are really terrible. They run very hot and loud. You'll need to spend a little more for a good 1070, and at that point you may as well get a 1070ti for just a little more money but with much better performance.

shaZam23 1 point 14 days ago

Hey, what happened to the gpu??????

EnoxRule 1 point 13 days ago

wow my 1070 only has 222999999 hdmi ports

Zanamaho 1 point 11 days ago

im kinda new to this whole pc thing but just wanted to know if subbing in the ryzen 5 2600x for this cpu would be viable?

also, if I wanted to downgrade the gpu to a 1060, what would u recommend? i was thinking of getting a ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, would this work?

like i said im a noob, so would there be any issues with getting the 3200mhz version of this same RAM? Or would that mess with the compatibility?

kellyzac 1 point 10 days ago

Ridiculously dumb question from new guy: do you need the video card for general use? This build had no card in it for a bit (nothing matched the filter) and was obviously much more attractive from an affordability standpoint.

ConfusedPerson_01 1 point 2 days ago

No need but even just like watching videos on youtube will be bad without the graphics card.

Nater650 1 point 9 days ago

RIP people who live outside the US that can’t afford this because of import charges.

Nater650 1 point 9 days ago

Can this run Fallout 76?

JheyoDELperu 1 point 9 days ago

its not great if the only public list suggest and allowed by PCpartpicker... tired to watch this... yeaah yeah i know what happend years ago.. but this feels lazy

LupeGonzalez 1 point 8 days ago

Would I be able to stream with this build?

GameProElite 1 point 7 days ago

Micro ATX mobo? But u have an ATX case. AM I missing something?

MrQuantum 1 point 7 days ago

Just wondering, as a noob, is there anything missing from this build that I would have to account for? Other than keyboard, mouse and monitor. And what would you guys recommend for the absent parts?

ConfusedPerson_01 1 point 2 days ago

Yes, wou will also need a mouse pad and a headset for an optimal gaming experience on a budget

LilGucciTae 1 point 6 days ago

Hey I have a questions about this build. I’m a real money saving budget person, so is there any way to make the HDD 1TB and SSD 128GB? And also, the sale for the 1070 is ending soon. I can’t get it now. Will the price drop in the future?

Thanks!

ConfusedPerson_01 1 point 2 days ago

yea, parts will always drop in price as newer better parts enter the market, the ssd is unnesecary and you only need it if you want a faster boot, I would recommmend to still get the 2 tb tho.

GaryHi 1 point 6 days ago

AMD with most games = Bad FPS nuff said

Vodnikov 1 point 4 days ago

Looks good but there are some unnecessary expenses, maybe it just me though.

Cokillah 1 point 3 days ago

Great Build for the price

HeyKid 1 point 3 days ago

I honestly think that building a solid AMD computer is key for playing games like COD, PUBG, or even Fortnite

pulltherage 1 point 3 days ago

New to PC building, I mostly play RPGs (Fallout, Skyrim, Witcher etc) but I would like the option to play some multiplayer titles like battlefield and rocket league. Will something similar to this build be good for that?

ConfusedPerson_01 1 point 2 days ago

i bought all the parts and built it but it wont start, like not even the fans are moving.

Leed0 1 point 1 day ago

What about Ryzen 7 1800 ?

Guardian974 1 point 4 hours ago

I5 8400 would be better suited if I’m only going to game?

Sebasmm 0 points 2 months ago

Unless you want 4k gaming i think 1060 6gb should do the job. Also you could save in 8 gb of ram and use a smaller ssd for the OS and a 1tb for storage. Using an intel i5 or i3 8 series would make you need lower speed ram too. even a lower ryzen would probably work too. I cant think what kind of game would benefit from this kind of build though.

Deihman 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

A lot of them. This build is for running games at 1080p 75+Hz or 1440p 60Hz at high to ultra settings. If you want a cheaper PC that runs 1080p 60FPS, look at some lower priced builds like the Good AMD or Intel Gaming build guides.

Matthew83 -1 points 1 month ago

Here's my version of this build, but with a cheaper case/psu and a couple of nice fans. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJsjq4

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

The M12II/S12II is a poor choice in PSU and is not suited for modern builds. It lacks OTP and OCP protection, it doesn't support C6/C7 power states, and it is group regulated which means during crossload the 5V rail or the 12V rail could get quite ugly or even go out of spec. Plus its known to be a loud PSU. It was a decent PSU choice in 2010 but it days have long passed.

Farther info

It lacks crucial safety protections

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193-21.html

Its doesn't support low power states although its is pennies amounts so it is just icing on top of the cake.

It is group regulated which means that it can't out put its full power on the 12V rail and the 12V/5V rail uses one coil and when the load isn't balance e.g high load on one and low on the other aka crossload it has a very hard time regulating voltage which means that voltage regulation on the 12V and 5V can get ugly or even out spec if you push the PSU hard enough.

https://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/psu/160/

Matthew83 1 point 1 month ago

I looked it up on johnnyguru, and it's review was very positive, scoring a 9.7 out of 10, so I believed it to be a good PSU, even though it's group regulated, and in the review they mention it's the best scoring group regulated PSU they've ever tested. However, it is a 10 year old review, and I'm not contesting your opinion, but would ask, what PSU would you recommend instead? Full or semi modular if possible.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

A Corsair CXM/CX. Easily the best PSU in the ~$50 range and below.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-cx650m-psu,4770.html

https://pcpartpicker.com/comments/thread/2661764/

There is also the Corsair TXM that is for $50 right now with MiR, even better than the CXM and is a great deal.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-tx750m-psu,5062.html

http://www.orionpsudb.com/corsair

ten8yp 5 Builds 1 point 29 days ago

Most Semi-modular PSU's have all detachable cables with exception of the 24pin (which MUST be used anyways). So, to me, as long as a PSU has either semi or full modular its fine. I would NOT recommend Corsair though. They have had some quality control issues in the recent past (according to reviews I've read.) IMO EVGA makes some of the best psu's. They have decent bronze level psu's in the sub $50 market. However my recommendation with them is the EVGA 650GQ and 750GQ (650/750watt GOLD rated) which can be found on sale for $50-65 if you wait for the right moment. I have personally used the 650watt model and it has been a GREAT psu. Great overclocking and no issues what so ever. This is the one I would personally go for. Hope this helps.

purplepigmy 1 Build -2 points 16 days ago

seeing the words "amd" and "great" in the same sentence makes me chuckle

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

No. Not in any way shape or form is a 580 better than a 1070. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-580/3609vs3923 The 1070 is 54% better than a 1070. Even though both cards have 8gb of vram, the 1070 has more cores, and a better architecture design. PPD isn’t really a consideration here as the 1070 is about the same price (a little higher) and if you’re going to be doing high end gaming, you definitely would spend the money to get undeniably better performance. There really isn’t even a viable argument for buying a 580 unless you absolutely need a card with its exact specs.

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Deihman 1 Build 4 points 2 months ago

This could get you 60FPS or more on almost all modern titles, even on high or very high settings, and is definitely future proof. It’ll probably last you the lifetime of the products before you really need to upgrade.

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Agreed

NokNokWhosThere 4 points 2 months ago

This build will let you play on ultra settings above 60 fps for most modern titles. for how long it will last I would guess 5-8 years because of the power of the card

ThaPoint 3 points 2 months ago

I would still wait a bit for prices to come down. The new GPUs from Nvidia are around the corner and as you can see the prices of the 10xx series are already falling.

RyanmFisher -5 points 2 months ago

with nvidias new raytracing I would suggest waiting because this is a major graphical bump

rhali8 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Visually, sure. But it also (from what we've seen) takes a pretty heavy hit on FPS. From the demo they played, games seemed to have run at no more than 40FPS when ray tracing was on... These RTX cards are amazing, but I don't think they're primarily designed for raw frame smashing gaming. People tend to overlook this.

Matthew83 2 points 1 month ago

Just don't wait until the 20xx comes out, because then the prices for the 10xx series will start to go up again.

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Uhh what’s the logic behind that

trylaarsdam 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Also literally no games have ray tracing support until battlefield 5

zwruble 2 points 2 months ago

I've got a 970 and it can still run well at high settings at 1440p. A 1070 will take you pretty far.

Jonotha 1 point 2 months ago

Like 10 years or something

JacobGunther12 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah, probably not. Maybe 3-5 depending on how fast games progress to better graphics.

deathraydave 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

This can crush high settings lol

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ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 2 months ago

It's a valid alternative, but I wouldn't call it objectively better. The list you've linked has a weaker CPU, slower RAM, and less storage.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 2 months ago

The 1500X is slower than the 2600. I recommend looking up benchmarks that include both. You may be confusing clock speed as the only way to measure CPU performance, but 1GHz on one CPU is not necessarily the same performance as 1GHz as another.

If your part list had the same amount of storage as the guide's, it'd cost £95 more than the guide's. It wouldn't simply be a trade for slower storage. It would cost significantly more. Even without having as much storage, it still costs £45 more.

Adding in a GTX 1080 is a great benefit, but you have to recognize the tradeoffs when you do such a thing. It's very important to do so when comparing part lists.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 2 months ago

The RAM is faster now, but this new part list still has a slower CPU, still has less solid state storage and less mechanical storage, and still costs more. It also still has a better GPU than the guide's.

It's still a good built. All I'm trying to convey to you is that you can't do something like halve (or more) the storage and claim the build is objectively better.

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor 8W - 65W
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 14W - 14W
Gigabyte - UD PRO 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Toshiba - 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card 42W - 170W
Total: 70W - 279W