Description

Needed a personal workstation that wouldn't completely break the bank, while having potential for upgrades over time.

Rubber ducky for reference.

A few of the parts here took a long time for me to decide on over their competitors. For example, the Enermax LIQTECH TR4 II AIO had horrible quality control issues in the first revision. Apparently most of these first-gen failures were recalled. I saw a review on newegg that said something similar but pulled the trigger on the second gen 360mm RGB version, and hasn't had problems. I took that advice and haven't been disappointed so far. Will update if this changes.

The Gigabyte Designare X399 motherboard was another choice that I made after a lot of thought. So far, every Gigabyte product that I have bought has been great. Also, the memory support according to their list seemed sufficient. I was surprised when I got it in the mail to be honest. The packaging was very nice, and the build quality of the motherboard is incredible.

The rubber ducky took a long time to decide on. First, I wondered, "Will this ducky provide enough FPS for demanding AAA titles such as battletoads and minecraft?" - If you are trying to decide on whether to add to your build, stop thinking, and do it.

In my previous build, I purchased a Corsair K70 RGB, Corsair ST100 RGB Headset Stand, and Corsair Scimitar (RGB). So, logically, I got the corsair Vengeance RGB pro memory, and LL120 RGB fans to integrate into iCue. Works as expected.

Overclocked the memory to 4466MHz, and CPU to 4.225 GHz. Haven't done much to the 2080, 2080ti's were all sold out :'(

I plan to add more memory, storage, a custom loop, NVLink, and RGB fans. Memory will come first. Mostly since it's RGB, but also since 32 GB is just barely (not) enough for my work.

Edit: Added a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO to the second M.2 Slot. I absolutely love not having any SATA connections (Data & Power). Not to mention, having all of my storage in M.2 slots is incredibly nice as it saves the build visually as well as in terms of cable management. Could not recommend going full M.2 enough. Also, Threadripper gets 64 PCI Lanes. This should allow for all M.2 and PCIE storage while still having the option to do NVLink.

Part Reviews

CPU

Amazing multi-thread performance. Single performance is impressive too, considering that it isn't the highlight of this CPU. easily overclocked to 4.2GHz. ~3500 cinebench R15

CPU Cooler

I had really wanted this cooler for Threadripper 2. However, due to negative reviews and quality control, I almost didn't. This AIO seems good so far and keeps my 2950x in the high 20's at idle (4.2Ghz), and 50-65 under load.

Motherboard

Incredible build quality. I was skeptical to buy this motherboard over the MSI and Asus boards. I do not regret my purchase. It overclocks stable and easy.

Storage

Why wouldn't you buy this ssd? Super speedy, reliable, M.2!

Video Card

Runs crysis, confirmed.

Case

Amazing airflow, space, and aesthetic. <3 Der8auer

Custom

Some of the cable combs broke their teeth. :( They look nice and are cheap-ish. Cablemod probably looks better, but for a simple color this is easy enough. Matched my rubber ducky's bill.

Custom

+70 FPS average when Rubber Ducky is introduced to PC build.

"I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the batteries that are not included."

Comments

  • 13 months ago
  • 3 points

nice build, super clean... well done!

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm thinking of copying this entire build. However, I'm more geared towards gaming and video editing. Will that case be good for holding more SSDs and Mechanical Hard drives?

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

The back panel for holding the cables has a lot of SSD mounting brackets. Also, it comes with potential for dual power supplies in the back. There is a modular hard drive bay that you can put there. I was super impressed with this case.

Edit: there are 3 m.2 slots on the motherboard. Also, you can use pcie slots for additional storage if need be.

If you game, stream, and or video edit, this build would do you well - great for future proofing, and upgrading :). What kind of games are you thinking?

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh okay, that sounds awesome :). Mainly battlefield 5 for now. I'll just wait for Black Friday and hope the prices go down a bit.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

That would be a good idea! Also, I strongly recommend the 970 pro for additional storage. I tested it out on my gsync monitor and every game at 1080p capped my gsync out at 180 fps and hz on highest quality. Tested on counter strike, black ops 4, league, wow, and overwatch. Should tackle 4k nicely.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Sounds great. You mentioned you had the peripherals - what else would I need to copy this build?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Keyboard | Corsair K70 Rapidfire (RGB) Mechanical Keyboard, nice build quality (don't get a refurbished one)

Mouse | Corsair Scimitar (RGB) Has num-pad on the side, I previously had a Razer Naga.

Headset | Audio Technica ATH M30x Amazing frequency response -- flat sound, cheap & comfortable

Monitor1 | Asus ROG-SWIFT-PG248Q Incredible display for anything needing high refresh rate/GSYNC (Matches refresh rate to FPS)

Monitor2 | Dell UltraSharp U2414H 23.8” Decent color for second monitor, doesn't need gsync.

Microphone | Audio Technica ATR2500 USB Plug and play, good quality.

Basically, I wanted to keep most of my inputs same-brand for theme purposes. One monitor has decent color, and the other has a high refresh rate display for either high frame-rate footage, or games. I plan on upgrading to a UHD monitor in the future. Also, I will be putting in 4 more sticks of the same memory if the motherboard will support it. More storage will come as well. NVLink'ed 2080's may be a possibility, too. :)

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

wow

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Awesome, very nice build +1 for Dark Wing Duck, lol.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

He is the terror that flaps in the night

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey, I see you didn't add any front fans. Would it be possible to add the front fans with that 360 rad on the top, or would there be interference?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

There seems to be plenty of room. I plan on adding more fans to the front soon. I'm out of town, but can double check for you later today. There are four mounting locations on the front, top, bottom, and back(front). None of them seem to be overlapping/interfering. I think the most likely interference would be between the back mount, and front. I will install another radiator and fan I have laying around to make sure it's possible for you! :)

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

That would be great! I wanted to do a push pull on the top and 3 front fans, 3 side, and 3 bottom fans. But was curious if it would be possible. Appreciate you looking in to it! Planning on getting this case and wanted to ask someone before I get it! Cheers.

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

It looks like you'll be good to go. There was enough clearance to put triple 120mm fans in the bottom, side, and front with a 360mm radiator on the top. The only problem was that the top fan on the front was very tight with the AIO tube connected to the radiator on the top mount. You should be fine if you put your AIO (or custom loop) tubing (on the radiator) towards the back of the case. Alternatively, the front panel could come off and fans could be mounted on the outside (front). If you're doing push/pull on a 360mm radiator, the motherboard has enough space to allow for it to be contained in the case. (keep in mind, this is with reference to a 28mm thickness radiator). Also, the case has cable routing below the motherboard, allowing you to connect your case headers (USB3.0, HD Audio, Pwr/reset), and route them below without compromising fan clearance. The power supply being in the back of the case helps in that regard, too. Hope this helps :)

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Absolutely awsome brother! Thank you for the info. Gonna get this case forsure!

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Awesome! Good to hear! Let me know how it goes :D

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm planning to do a rig with the TR 2nd gen 2950X on the X399 designare mobo, like you did but I have some concerns about various issues came up to other guys updating the BIOS firmware up to the latest version (F11e) in order to support the 2nd gen TR CPUs, you can read here http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/4975/use-f10-old-x399s-threadrippers.

So my question is, what version of the BIOS are you running on and what's the overall feeling of the hardware behavior in your build so far, regarding virtualization using virtual box (if any), CPU loading and power consumption in a stock mode.

Thanks for sharing your build

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Everything worked out of the box on F10 for me. Initial overclocks (4.225GHz) were achieved on F10 BIOS. Everything was incredible at stock speed and power, and was also easily managed. One thing to keep in mind is that overclocking on the gigabyte motherboard uses page up and page down to change values haha.

As for behavior and feeling, it has been a dream having 32 threads for work. The Enermax cooler keeps it very cool with minimal power leakage. Admittedly, in the stock settings, the thermals were better. However, idling at 28c given a 42x multiplier feels incredible. The single core performance is fantastic as well, considering that's not the selling point.

If you're planning on running everything stock, I think you will be very happy with this set-up for similar tasks. The threadripper could potentially be undervolted and run with an air cooler if you're planning on going that route.

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks for the feedback ;)

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Any time! :3 Hopefully your build goes well!

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Very menacing rubber duck

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

:D

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank god you didn't forget to include the Rubber Ducky in the part list

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

It's the most important aspect of the build :)

Unfortunately, Cinebench doesn't have a test for Rubber Duckies yet.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

If I were you, I'd move the GPU up to the top slot. It will have more room to breath and the slot closest to the CPU usually has the highest bandwidth.

Awesome build!

Also, what kind of work do you do?

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

64PCIe lanes courtesy of threadripper. That particular slot is a 16x as is the top one. There are two (16x) according to the motherboard manual. The bottom of the case is pretty open and has good air flow. Temps and performance have been great on it so far, no limiting bandwidth :)

Thanks! I do software engineering and app development. Generally I have a virtual machine running with 8-16 threads, and 16Gb of memory.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi what about a Quadro p4000 in this build?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't see why not. This build has plenty of headroom for changes and/or upgrades. I don't do much if any cad work, so I didn't think a Quadro was necessary. The rtx cards have pretty good price/performance and are decently versatile.

This also acts as my personal computer, so it's nice to have something that I can play a game on while I'm compiling a quartus (VHDL) project, or something in Matlab. It also works nicely for graphics and visual effects work when necessary (although a Quadro may be better suited for that end in many cases).

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

i need a pc just for architecture etc modelling rendering... AutoCad, 3D Rhonnoceros, V-Ray ,3ds Max, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe InDesign so what do you think?is there Amd better then Intel? and for the gpu i think the quadro is better when you need the pc only for work or? thx for help

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah just for work, a Quadro would likely be better. Amd is great imo. However, for the Adobe suite, Intel is a bit better when comparing similar processors. This will tackle most workloads you throw at it if you swap to a Quadro. I would compare benchmarks online for your price point of Intel vs amd as well as Quadro vs rtx on your estimated workloads before buying. Either way though, this build and equivalent builds will handle workloads nicely!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

DAMN can you share your settings to get to that OC and those temps i would like to reach those levels mine touches almost 100 C if i put 4.22 on the TR

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Oof, yeah! I'll get some pictures for you later today. What cooler are you using?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

i had the x61 but this cpu runs to hot so i move to Enermax - LIQTECH TR4 II 280

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

[CPU Voltage | 1.3875] [PPT | 180] [TDC | 180] [EDC | 240]

[Simultaneous Multi | on ] [Memory Access Mode | Dynamic]

[Mem VDDIO | 1.3] [VDDR SOC | 1.1] [Memory Clock | 1733 (translates to 3466GHz)]

Also, I'm using Noctua NT-H1 ceramic thermal paste. I used a ton of it on the IHS

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

nice i have the grizzly kryonaut i'll try that configuration thanks man i'll let you know how it goes

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Ooh, yeah kryonaut should work even better! Hopefully it runs stable at that voltage for you. Keep me posted :)

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

question about that voltage is that the Vcore or the input voltage?

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

VCore

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

what did you have on MEM VTT??

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Auto from the XMP, I only had to change the clock speed after that for stability.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Quick question are you able to OC your memory with that memory??? i have the red LED 3000MHZ corsair but i can OC it

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, this memory kit overclocks nicely. It is stable at 3466 without changing anything other than clock speed.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

damn i'm planning on changing my ram but i wanna make sure that i'm able to OC my ram

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

The big things to check would be your CPU and motherboard for overclocking your memory. Out of the box, this motherboard set this memory kit to 2133MHz. Xmp had to be enabled for me to get normal specs, let alone overclock. I know first gen threadrippers as well as earlier x399 motherboard bios didn't support memory well at first.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Getting closer to black Friday :). In which storage device did you install Windows? I heard it's best to use install Windows on its own device and the rest of the software on another. Or it wouldn't make much of a difference?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I put windows on the 500GB 970 PROalong with my high use-frequency programs. A large portion of my other files/programs go on the 1TB 970 EVO. I plan on purchasing another 970 pro. All other non-necessary files are stored on network storage or cloud services like google drive.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah okay, I'll do that too. Holy crap, the prices are getting higher instead of going down...

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Also, do you recommend me updating BIOS right away?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Why did you get that power supply? It's very expensive. Is there a particular reason or could one go with a cheaper option?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I got it for future upgrading. also according to its rating, it should perform similarly regardless of load. You could go with a lower rated and lower wattage supply. :)

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I just ordered everything, but had to get a different GPU because the other was out of stock. Did you not have to order some thermal paste like Grizzly cryonot or something like that?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

The enermax cooler comes with thermal paste but I had Artic Silver

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I want to know the process of painting the case?

what types/brands of paint, process, etc. Please!

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

It's just normal spray paint -- Krylon Fusion Spray (All purpose) basically, you roughly sand down the surface if you think it won't be a rough enough surface to hold the spray paint. Then, you add on light coats, sanding as you go with smoother levels of sandpaper until you get to a point where it looks good enough for your taste. Then, I sprayed mine with a matte clear spray coat. :)

For Reference: https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/761680-DIY-guide-to-painting-your-PC-Case

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Update

first of all thx for your help man. i was actually able to reach 4.25 with those setting and ram at 3200mhz, being testing it for almost a month without any problem temps on the high 70s under load and at high 30s idle

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Awesome! That's great to hear! It's a super exciting build to OC since it has so much headroom! Really glad you got it working well :)

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

yeah still trying to OC my 1080Ti but most of my games crashed with the lowest OC :S

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm trying to keep away from OC'ing my GPU for the most part, so far. I've hear plenty of horror stories of the 2080 not holding up under OC. Not to mention, mine is air cooled :/ Yours will probably outperform mine in gaming if you get the memory overclocked on your GPU :D

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

i changed the blower style with a hybrid kit and is pretty cold without OC that is why i want to overclock it, i know i have some room and some games and benchmarks worked great but other games just refused to work with OC not sure what is going on :S

And yours is still an rtx i'm sure at some point that would be the way to go for GPU work

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey bro, this motherboard may be different but, your PCI express slot for your GPU may not be running at its full speed, if I were you, check your motherboard manual, great build nevertheless

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

That's a 16x according to my manual. Made sure to double check that before I put my GPU in a weird slot. Shouldn't be bottle-necking, and doesn't seem to be. Thanks for the heads up though :)

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Damn dude, I'm having a hard time finishing this build

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey dust,

First: terrific build! I'm planning a very similar one (case, cpu, mobo) to be built soon, and I'm inspired.

Which leads me to point number two: how is the Enermax holding up? I've been back and forth in my mind a lot about air vs liquid, especially given the few aio solutions than cover the entire cpu. The horror stories from v1 of the liqtech had me firmly in the air cooling route (e.g. Noctua UH-14 with an extra fan in push/pull) until I saw your build.

So: it's been a few months since you debuted this build, and you're running a nice OC. How are temps? Do you trust the Enermax? How often are you putting this rig through its paces, so to speak? I'd love to go aio but I don't wanna lose two grand in some terrible accident, you know?

Thanks in advance for any help you might provide!

iiad

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for the comment!

So far, the Enermax liquid cooler is holding up great. Same/similar temps as first posted. I frequently put my system through intense work, engaging most if not all cores.

This was probably the most contentious purchase in my order. I was very torn between the risk but ease-of-use/performance of this cooler, air, and a custom loop solution.

The first month, I babied it, and wouldn't run intense processing while I wasn't in the room. Now, having similar performance from day-1 (and no noise coming from the AIO pump), I trust this particular AIO.

I love the cooler for my rig. However, I would suggest keeping a close eye on it for the first month or so of purchase. As seen by other reviews, the quality control is potentially questionable. Mine works amazing, but a sample size of 1 might not be the best statistics.

The design is fantastic on the Liqtech TR4 II. Due to the full die coverage, I get peace-of-mind knowing that in intense workloads, my Threadripper 2 isn't going to throttle.

So, from a performance standpoint, I would recommend. If you can monitor your build closely in the first month or two, then for sure get the Liqtech TR4 II. If you want peace of mind, from what I understand, the Noctua air coolers for TR4 sockets have incredible performance as well.

Also, supposedly, Enermax fixed the QC issues with this version.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the quick reply! I really appreciate it -- doubly so because you seem to know what you're doing.

Contentious purchase: yeah, I'm having the same experience. I might do what you've done: get the Enermax and watch it closely the first month, only running intense applications when I'm sitting there with it, and go from there, with the Noctua as a backup. I'm too much of a novice right now to consider a custom loop, but learning how to do them is in my three-year plan.

Thanks again. I might ask you a question later about your overall thermal and air-flow approach on this build, but I need to sort out this decision first. Have a good one!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

You're welcome! :)

Buying both coolers seems like a good idea in my opinion. Not entirely sure if it made much of a difference, but I used Noctua NT-H1 thermal compound in place of the Enermax supplied generic.

And yeah, if you ever have questions, feel free to ask!

Jayztwocents on Youtube has a really good video about fan placement, and configuration with regards to positive, negative, and neutral pressure. Not to mention, that can be figured out/improved later.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Sup dust,

Turns out that Noctua they made for ThreadRipper doesn't fit the O11! Compatibility checker returned an error saying so.

I know it's a huge air cooler, but the O11 seems like such a wide case. I know you're not using the Noctua obviously, but is the compatibility checker ever wrong? How can I get a measurement of how much space I would have between the mounted but "empty" (non-cooled) motherboard and the glass side panel?

Any help would be heaps appreciated. Take care !

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry for the late reply! I trust the compatibility checker for the most part. I would check and see if anyone uses this cooler for Threadripper on YouTube (Gamernexus, jayztwocents, etc.) Side note, if the cooler fits but doesn't cover the full ihs it can still have full die coverage on Threadripper due to the massive ihs. There should be an online manual for clearances for the case and everything.

-Dust

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi, I'm thinking of getting the same Enermax LIQTECH TR4 II 360 for a threadripper 2990wx build and I'm wondering since its been 6 months from the time you did this build if you had any issues with the cooler? any temperature changes in the time it's been running?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

No changes or issues! It the Enermax liquid cooler is still running strong! I did, however recently change the fans out with some Be Quiet fans. The Enermax fans are a bit loud but work great. Either way, it cools great!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah cool, yeah I'm not worried about the fans since you can easily change them, I'm concern about the issues with the coolant that the first gen had, thanks for letting me know!

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Update: My Enermax Cooler died. Will take it apart to see why -- My guess is galvanic corrosion like the others which clogs the fins. Temperature would idle at about 80c. Any load would cause a shutdown. I bought a Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 TR4 which works amazing. Problem is, it doesn't fit in the case with the tempered glass panel. Oops! :P With the new air cooler, I idle at about 33c and hit about 47c under load. Room temp is about 23-24c.

I'm kinda sad that the cooler died. It was so promising. Great cooler at first, and I'm really disappointed that I recommended it to people. I hope that others don't have similar issues with this new gen. of Enermax Cooler. If you haven't bought yet, the Noctua and Be Quiet! air coolers seem to work fantastic as an alternative. Albeit, you can't have as aggressive of overclocks.

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Ah damn, I guess it's not worth the hassle of going with an Enermax, thanks for the update!

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, at this point, I would suggest the Be Quiet or Noctua TR4 air coolers. They don't fit in the case (height restriction) but so far the dark rock pro tr4 has been great for me.

Can't recommend the Enermax cooler after they supposedly fixed it and it still failed.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You haven't water cooled the Duck!!! You will soon be approached by PETA!

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  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

~3500, I already had peripherals :)

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  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Nope, been building my own PCs for about 10 years now. This is definitely one of the builds I'm most proud of though!