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Hi again, about six months ago I built my Small but TUF mATX build in Fractal Design Arc Mini R2. It's a really nice case but it's pretty big for a micro ATX case and I realised I could fit (almost) all of it in case that half the volume of the Arc Mini: the (Jonsbo) Cooltek U3 or the Rosewill Legacy U3 as it's known is the US and CA. So I went ahead and ordered the case and "my god it's tiny, and it's gorgeous!" was my first reaction when I put it next to the fractal.

THE BUILD I had looked at numerous builds with this case on the internetz but actually fitting everything in was another thing completely. There is really no cable management in this case but luckily the mobo standoffs are pretty tall so some cables can be routed behind the motherboard and fortunately the G-550 has flat cables which are very nice to have in a confined space. Especially fitting in the motherboard gave me a really hard time and for the first time ever I was afraid I'd break it. Then I realised after I'd fitted in the CPU cooler that the GPU would have to be pivoted in somehow so I had to take it out.

STORAGE One negative thing about this case is the 3.5" drive support. You can actually fit 1 in the bottom and 1 in a special side bracket but I wanted to fit a 120mm fan to the bottom and I had read that the side bracket makes vibrations pretty bad. I had recently gotten a 250GB Crucial BX100 SSD along with my 250GB Samsung 840 SSD and had 1+TB of stuff on my 2TB WD Black so the SSD's alone wouldn't cut it. So I decided to put the Black in an external USB3 enclosure and fit the 2 SSD's in the case.

COOLING I have my i5 OC'd to 4.5GHz (1.26v) and I decided to keep it that way. There's only place for one 120mm fan at the back and some air is also exhausted through the PSU but I wanted some intake as well so I decided to fit a 120mm fan in the bottom of the case which is pretty well ventilated. I will also be getting a dust filter for the intake fan. I swapped the rear fan grille for a less restrictive one which I had lying around. The case is very silent with the stock fan (1000RPM) and the Noiseblocker PL1 (900rpm) running at full speed and the Noctua fan adapting to CPU temp. It's also running just as cool as the Fractal case which is surprising considering there are only two case fans.

So, thanks for checking out my build and let me know what you think.

Comments

  • 52 months ago
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Great build Beautiful pictures +1 love seeing the Rosewill legacy U3 builds! looks like a really great case looks like a house hold appliance though haha.

  • 52 months ago
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It's so beautiful... so lovely. Like a star in the night. Amazing work, enjoy your PC! It's so clean and a work of art.

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you sir!

  • 52 months ago
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lol You are most welcome.

  • 52 months ago
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Bravo! I love this +1

  • 52 months ago
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Man this build is just awesome. I love the pre-routing of the cables. The pictures that show before with mock routing and after routing are a must for every build on PCPP. I really want this case for a matx build or even the U2-S for my itx build. +1!

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha thanks! I literally just moved around the cables for over 30 minutes before putting the motherboard in just thinking how the heck is this gonna fit :D

  • 52 months ago
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Does the GPU really get that hot under load with the extra fan blowing air to it??? I just noticed that...

  • 52 months ago
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Well it's not that hot is it? It's got a very silent fan profile so thats one thing. The fans on it rarely go above 1500rpm

  • 52 months ago
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not really. Its not a temp i wouldve expected though with the flan blowing on the card. Maybe without the fan i would have guessed that. lol

  • 52 months ago
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Well it's usually closer to 70 and my goal was to keep it as silent as possible while keeping it below 80. It doesn't throttle or anything either.

  • 52 months ago
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This has a really neat industrial feel to it. Well done with the glamour shots! You make it look so beautiful and I really want to try this chassis for my upcoming home server. The only downside is that I would need more storage space. I would need to at least fit 2 HDD and 1 SSD. I think I could get away with the lack of fans since I wont have a GPU and the chip is only a G3258 cooled by a Hyper 212 EVO.

So let me ask you this, If I had the same fan setup as you and no GPU, could I fit 1 HDD on the bottom where your SSD is, then use the side mount bracket for another HDD and also use 2 sided tape or velcro to attach my SSD on the back of the front panel? Where does the additional 3.5 mount go?

Also, your PSU might also be helping with your atmospheric temps since its top mounted. How does your external HDD enclosure look? You should get one of these just for the cool factor:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/thermaltake-dual-bay-docking-station-for-most-internal-sata-hard-drives/9419596.p?id=1218102199901&skuId=9419596

  • 52 months ago
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Yes you could fit on 3.5" on the bottom though you couldn't fit a fan as the 3.5" mounts right in the middle. You could also fit one on the side bracket though the 212 Evo might not fit with the bracket on. You could also velcro an SSD to side on the PSU or anywhere

Added a pic of the enclosure exposing it's goodies just a bit ;) Linear read is 136MB/s with this

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you for answering my questions. I guess the only thing that I'm still confused about is where the extra 3.5 side bracket goes?

EDIT: I found it for those of you who are interested:

http://www.rosewill.com/products/2538/ProductDetail_Overview.htm#/Mgnt/Uploads/ImagesForProduct/ImgPrd-2538-Cm[02b6ca9e6fe44adbbf1dd226e36bcf4b].jpg

  • 52 months ago
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So just to double check, there is no way to mount a 3.5 HDD and a 120mm fan at the bottom at the same time?

  • 52 months ago
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I mean I did get the side bracket but just didn't wanna use it and I'm not even sure it would've with my heatsink. Check out this review and you'll know what I mean: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1409-page1.html

Here's a good pic how much space the HDD takes in the bottom: http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/images/rosewill-legacy-u3/17.jpg It's just so in the middle. Although if you don't use a dedicated GPU I'm not sure if you need a fan. Could maybe even use the rear fan as intake to keep some dust out with the pressure.

  • 52 months ago
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You got featured!!! Congrats! Well deserved my friend.

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you!

  • 52 months ago
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Super clean build. Those pictures are hella professional +1

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you sir!

  • 52 months ago
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Awesome build, love when people create small form pcs but then also make them so neat. This should be a featured build the photos are quality. The only downside is that it makes me want to start a new build! My wallet is already crying!

  • 52 months ago
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Thanks! It seems your wallet has already shed some tears with those 980 ti's am I right?

  • 52 months ago
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Yeah you got that right! I may have gone a little overboard...

  • 52 months ago
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Nice build and great pictures! +1

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you sir!

  • 52 months ago
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That's a killer case! Dig your build, so clean. I've been trying to purchase a Red U3, but they don't make them anymore. I built a Jonsbo U1 for my wife and it's such an awesome case. Gotta love the quality of those Jonsbo cases. good job! BTW - what are your temps for cpu and gpu like, idle and load? thx

  • 52 months ago
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You can see the temps below the parts list ;) The GPU is totally passive when idle and spins the fans when it 's about 60 degrees. The CPU fan runs usually at about 500-700 RPMs and is totally silent.

  • 52 months ago
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Thanks. your temps are very good for a small case. I bet it looks even better in real life !

  • 52 months ago
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Just built in the same case and loving it. +1 for gorgeous pics!

  • 52 months ago
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Nice build you got! Thanks!

  • 52 months ago
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An absolutely gorgeous build! I can really appreciate pictures on the more professional side of photography, plus there are an ample amount of them.

P.S. Congratulations on getting featured.

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you very much! Just a hobbyist photographer but I've done it a bit ;)

  • 52 months ago
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Your welcome :D Photography is quite fun, isn't it? I've pooled a fair bit of knowledge about it from my dad. He was professional photographer.

  • 52 months ago
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Yeah although building PC's and taking photos makes my wallet cry if you know what I mean ;)

  • 52 months ago
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I know all too well ;_;

  • 52 months ago
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Awesome job bro! Sleek and powerful build. Congrats on the feature :D +1

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you very much!

  • 52 months ago
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+1 to anyone using this case.

  • 52 months ago
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Beautiful!

I have the same case, still can't decide what to do with it :)

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  • 52 months ago
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Or, hang the case on wall gaze upon its beauty

  • 52 months ago
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:P

I think I'm going to move my Xeon into the Rosewill, use it for an HTPC for the time being, then eventually use it as a dedicated encoding rig for streaming. Hopefully this will all go down before the end of the year!

  • 52 months ago
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Gatta say those are some high quality pictures taken for a even higher quality computer...

+2 if possible

What camera do you use?

  • 52 months ago
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Thanks man! Got a nikom D7000. These pics were taken with the sigma 30mm f/1.4 art and 17-50 f/2.8 os lenses.

  • 52 months ago
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Beautiful photography work Laquel!

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you very much!

  • 52 months ago
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Jaw drops

Well done!

  • 52 months ago
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Any idea where I can get his case in the US? I've looked everywhere and no dice :(

  • 52 months ago
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I live in Finland and bought the case from germany so I don't really know the stores over there.

  • 52 months ago
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I'm actually seriously considering having one shipped to my friend in the UK then here. But talk about expensive :(

  • 52 months ago
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Dat Macro Doe

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you for taking so much care with the photos! your build is beautiful and deserves stunning photos like the ones you have uploaded!

  • 52 months ago
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Pretty much a given this build would be featured!

  • 52 months ago
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Wow congratulations on your build. Although an extremely small case and limited cable management, you've done an outstanding job.

I also love the case; I would definitely build a Hackintosh using it, for me it just has that Apple-esque.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow, for that tiny case I would think cable management would be a nightmare, but you pulled it off quite nicely. Well done! +1

  • 52 months ago
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Well, now, my pc, is just too big.

  • 52 months ago
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Wow...! Just wow! This build is super clean, beautiful and stunning. Great job on this man!

  • 52 months ago
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+1 this is a great compact build I love that case

  • 52 months ago
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It's adorable and goregeous! Well done!

  • 52 months ago
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Gotta comment on this one. First off: Amazing job with the cable management with that limited amount of space. Can't believe you fit that heatsync in there too!

Couple of questions I have though (As I'm looking for a compact build myself and this case is gorgeous): What's the airflow and noise like in that case?

Are there actual mounting points for the SSD in the bottom there or did you just leave it free standing?

Great job once again, congratz on being featured!

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! There are 2 SSD mounts on the bottom. 1 in the back and 1 where the fan is. I just velcroed the crucial on top of the Samsung.

The Airflow is decent and the temps aren't any worse than in the fractal arc mini I had before. Noise isn't bad as the fans don't spin too fast. I also got a demciflex magnetic filter for the the bottom intake because it includes this magnetic sticker and aluminum isn't magnetic.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice and clean looking build.

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

the bottom fan it's optional or you have to mod the case? im interested in the case but im worried about the airflow to the gpu

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi, there are some ventilation holes in the bottom although they are quite restrictive and the bottom isn't really meant for a fan. Here's a picture of bottom ventilation from SPCR's review: http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/images/rosewill-legacy-u3/06.jpg I also put a demciflex round 120mm dust filter there so it's not sucking everything in. Of course if you want superb airflow you can always cut some of the bottom away if you got the tools and skills.

In practice my GPU doesn't run that much hotter or louder than in my previous case (Fractal Arc mini) so it's fine. The GTX970 doesn't produce that much heat heat so it's a great card for this case. I think you're ok with a powerful GPU as long as you don't mount a 3.5" HDD in the bottom and of course the size of the case somewhat restricts you from using the most high-end GPUs.

  • 46 months ago
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Thank you for for being my inspiration! I mounted a fan on the bottom of mine too http://pcpartpicker.com/b/T6wV3C

  • 46 months ago
  • 1 point

NP ;)

Nice to see other builds in this case! Very good job and a clean build.

  • 44 months ago
  • 1 point

You ran the cables underneath your motherboard ...... MY BROTHER!!!!!! I started doing this a long time ago and I hardly ever see anyone do this, kind of like a lost art that never really took.

  • 44 months ago
  • 2 points

Kinda had to BC theres no way get access behind the mobo ;)

  • 44 months ago
  • 1 point

This case is awesome, I couldn't find a good deal on one when I did my build though.

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

Where'd you get that external hdd enclosure??

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

I ordered it with the case from mindfactory.de. It's just a basic USB3 case from fantec.

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build +1

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  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! I think I will upgrade the GPU when I feel the need (/want) for it because the CPU side development has been so slow anyways but the 970 suits me fine as it is ATM.

The motherboard was such a pain to install anyways that don't feel like taking that out for a while. You tuck some cables behind the motherboard and psu and the sata cables have to be installed beforehand in the connectors are on the side of the mobo.

I really recommend getting a short GPU. This one is about 241mm long and while I've seen some people cram even 266mm reference 980's in, this was hard enough. Oh and a (semi) modular PSU is really a must have.

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  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh and one thing I forgot to mention is that I would maybe now consider putting in the PSU after the motherboard. Just put those pcie sata etc there beforehand. It would have given some space to wiggle in the mobo.

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  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you sir!

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  • 52 months ago
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Well I'd like to thank my family, the PCPP community... ;D I saw a post on some forum by an Australian guy who had built in this case but it cost him like 150$ with shipping from US on somewhere.

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  • 52 months ago
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I wanted a decent overclocking motherboard and for 109€ this was a real bargain. The price tag on the box still said 160€. I also came with a 5 year warranty and z97 would't have really offered any benefits compared to this. For the same price I could have a bought a cheapo z97 only.

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  • 52 months ago
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Definitely yeah. The Z97 Gryphon with armor is 190€ currently here. The prices have gone up since € has weakened compared to $ and there's 24% VAT. So the most basic Z97 mobos usually start around 80€ and didn't want one of those. I think they were just emptying old Z87 stocks and that's why it was so cheap. E: I checked the Z97 MAXIMUS VII GENE is $203.99 in the cheapest american store and 205,90€ in the cheapest finnish store so I guess the difference isn't that big if you don't count in discounts.

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  • 52 months ago
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Yeah I know but pretty close nowadays. Besides, finnish prices include VAT. Isn't it added on top of the prices over there?

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  • 52 months ago
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Thanks! Let's hope so!

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  • 52 months ago
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Thanks man :D

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  • 52 months ago
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Thou truly art the blessed one! May the eternal fire... wait wut

  • 52 months ago
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how do you do the bigger text?

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  • 52 months ago
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Oh, ok then, charge me

$1.00

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  • 52 months ago
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Haha yeah. Maybe this mobo was "TUF" enough to handle it?

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  • 52 months ago
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Yeah I can upload some more later on. Most of the cables you can't see are behind the motherboard so I can't really take any photos besides the ones that I've got already. You can't remove the other side panel but fortunately the motherboard standoffs are pretty tall.

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