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Well it finally became time to build myself a new Gaming/Video editing PC when RYZEN came out. My Phenom II X6 1100T was getting long in the tooth. While my mind is open to Intel (and I own 2 other Intel based systems) my heart belongs to the underdog. My first 386 PC was an AMD, and I've used AMD and Cyrix processors in all my main systems since then. Cyrix is of course gone, so AMD is my team.

I still had some newer parts from my system I was able to recycle, and because Vega hasn't arrived yet I also recycled my reference RX 480. Then I just went nuts on the Red and ROG theme with the fans, and memory, and motherboard. I swapped out the fans on the CRYORIG A80 to complete the look, and I think it all came out pretty nice.

So some notes:

  • My first Seasonic Prime came with a broken cable in the 24 pin power cable. That was really disappointing for such an expensive and high end PSU

  • Case is awesome, beautiful even, however routing wires in such a big case is hard, because most stuff doesn't come with wires long enough. I had every intention of making the wires behind the back plate neat and tidy and they are a crapshow because while some stuff has plenty of length, other stuff JUST makes it. Also you can see the radiator on that middle bracket. I had assumed it would reach to where the 3 fans are in the front, but the tubes are JUST too short. Since it does not I added those fans, the case has a front side exhaust. Both they look cool and they keep from having this trapped pocket of hot air there.

  • I complained it was loud, its way less loud now. The Crosshair VI has a "AIO PUMP" header you can connect to instead of "CPU FAN". If you use the Cryorig A series do not use that, because if you do all it does is drive the fans at 100% with no control at all. The A series runs the pump off a SATA connector, so connect the plug to CPU FAN, then the system can control the speed. In that vein even running 3dMark the fans never go over 1k rpm, and the hottest I got the CPU even under stress testing and benchmarking is 61C.

  • Motherboards still have extensive RAM issues. Some ram can be run at full speed on it, Corsair is not one of those brands. Even setting the timings to the ram on the QVL produced a non boot. I tried literally everything (that little CMOS reset button on the back panel is a home run BTW), the fastest it will boot beyond stock settings is 2666mhz with the voltage manually set to 1.35. Anything beyond, no matter what you do, doesn't work. This is an issue I anticipate a fix for so I don't mind so much.

  • While benchmarking I monitored power draw from the wall. My old system would touch 400w on a spike. This build didn't exceed 280w at any point during Time Spy or Firestrike. I'm reasonably sure if AMD Vega is power efficient then running 2 new Vega cards in Crossfire on here with only 650w (admittedly Titanium) would be sufficient.

  • The LED lighting on the board is controlled both in the BIOS and by the Window AURA software. However if you use AURA, what you set in the BIOS doesn't matter. The board defaults to keep the ROG and Crosshair logo on even when the system is off. If you disable this in the BIOS but don't disable it in AURA, it will remain on.

Overall I'm very happy with it. I really need a new monitor (stuff is at a high enough fps now screen tearing is More noticeable), and the RX 480 I can tell isn't cutting it, this system wants to run faster so a 4k Freesync monitor is definitely in my future, maybe before the GPU.

Here is a link to my Userbenchmark of it. You can see how much the reference RX 480 holds its gaming performance back.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3104433

Secondary run after latest AMD driver update. Overall bump in performance

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3130916

3DMark Firestrike: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12023187

3DMark TimeSpy: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1390316

3/28/17 Update - New BIOS released v1002 allows me to run my RAM at 3200mhz finally, Userbenchmark shows minor overall improvement, monster memory performance improvement. Updated fan control allows system to run silently when not under load which is great.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3240211

No real discernible difference in Firestrike or Timespy, scores are in line with previous:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12146162

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1460281

I also tried hammering the heck out of the whole system running Prime 95 and running a Heaven benchmark at the same time. Managed to get the CPU to hit 71 degrees, GPU to his 81 degrees. Now from what I hear the Ryzen CPU temp sensors read high, I heard its 20 degrees high but I find that hard to believe. Either way there was no throttling so it ran fine. Managed to get it to touch 400w power draw from the wall, but it spent most of its time around 300-350w.

8/31/17 Update - Finally got XFX RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled.

Superposition - 5035 - https://i.imgur.com/7NNa3jG.png

Firestrike - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13959146

Timespy - http://www.3dmark.com/spy/2611814

UserBenchmark - http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4852712

I was completely and utterly wrong about Vega being possibly power efficient. This system will absolutely draw 600w+ from the wall under gaming load.

7/7/18 Update - Cablemod LED strips added, I was always disappointed how weak the LEDs in the fans were so I added more LED. Two new pics added to show. Also replaced 1 HDD with a Samsung 860 EVO 1tb SSD which all my games are now moved to.

8/4/18 Update - Discovered that AMD in improving Vega through drivers has also increased its power consumption, to the point where at full tilt gaming I was hitting OCP on my Seasonic Prime Titanium 650 shutting the system down. I was able to replicate the issue again in testing and found my power consumption had gone up nearly 100w since I first installed the RX Vega 64. So today I replaced it with a new Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750. It more than covers the system now.

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  • 37 months ago
  • 7 points

Awesome. Gotta support AMD and bring back competition. +1. any benchmarks on the way?

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

I added an updated userbenchmark, timespy and firestrike benchmarks

  • 37 months ago
  • 3 points

UFO! UFO!....Awesome. Glad AMD is back.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

I will add some soon!

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

Great build, Awesome about the 8g bios push. Did not know that. How are those Pro 140's vs the AF 140's. Been thinking about swapping out my AF's for those.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

The main advantage of the ML 140s over the AF is they are PWM with the Magnetic drive part being second. That said its hard to tell for me if they are quieter because they are installed on the AIO radiator so they naturally make more noise. Build quality wise they are definitely nicer with a stiffer outer cage and the red mounts look cool (hard to see in the picture). I added a picture of the case empty with just the fans if you want to see it better, should come up soon.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

My rx 480 gets a 103% for it's bench. But it is only slightly overclocked. #1450mhz stable.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

I hope VEGA suits your needs.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Mine is a reference model I got on launch day. 6 pin, no overclock. Its actually a 4 gb that I flashed to 8gb.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice.

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  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

During the first run of the RX 480 reference cards at launch they did not have enough of the 4GB memory chips to manufacture the advertised "$199 4GB card". So about half of 4GB cards available that day were actually 8GB with a BIOS that just locked it out to 4GB. If you identified your card has the correct memory chips (by model number on the chips you could get through GPU-Z) you could flash the 8GB BIOS to the card and it would unlock them.

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  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

+1

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

get another rx 480 in there and your golden my friend.,

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Nah I've done the Crossfire thing before recently, it sucks. Inconsistent performance, micro stutter, not all games support it. Vega will be out soon and the RX 480 will be replaced with whatever the high end of that is.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

true

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build you got there, planning on getting the same CPU/ MOBO/ RAM combo, if you have any updates regarding the RAM issues, would be nice to share, Good Work!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Nothing yet, have tried a few things but nothing can get the LED ram to run beyond 2666. Turns out the Vengeance LED ram is SK Hynix while the Vengeance LPX ram is Samsung B-die. The Samsung ram will work at full speed properly, so I suggest that if you don't want this speed issue. Otherwise at this point I'm just waiting for a BIOS update.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I have updated the post, BIOS version 1002 is available here:

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=167530

This allowed me to run the ram at 3200mhz using D.O.C.P. 5 (equivalent of XMP) and I was also able to get it running by manually setting 3200mhz, 1.35 dram voltage, and the specific timings (16-18-18-18-36), which is how its set now. This allowed me to leave AiOverclock enabled, it leaves the BCLK at 100 (vs 109 for DOCP) so the system will use XFR to turbo the CPU to 4.1 when needed, instead of manually overclocking it. So far, stable and faster.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice and glad to hear that, and most importantly thank you for taking the time to share. :D And i think i will be going for the LPX after all. Moreover with the number of BIOS updates being pushed, this should only get better. And when turbo'd to 4.1, is the CPU voltage within reasonable range?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I've seen the voltage hit 1.5 where the OC guide really recommends 1.45, but then again according to the guide the CPU can handle 1.95 under LN2, so the way I see it, if its still running cool (I've never gotten it over 73 degrees, max is 95 per the guide), and rock solid stable, then I'm not particularly concerned about the voltage.

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

Hello Rogue_Leader, This is a fantastic build!! I have placed my order on some similar spec hardware, and should be receiving parts Wednesday for a 1800x build with the Crosshair VI motherboard... I decided to go with a Samsung 960 Pro 512GB M.2 NVME as my boot drive. I have read mixed experiences regarding driver installation, and I wanted to hear about your experience. I have a few questions, if you wouldn't mind sparing a few minutes to answer.

1) Did you have to install any drivers to have your BIOS recognize the 960 Evo?

2) Did you install Windows on the original BIOS?

3) I was planning on installing Windows 10 Professional. Can you tell me which specific Windows 10 Pro you are using? Currently, I see the Creators and Anniversary Updates available. (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO)

4) I decided to purchase the G.Skill TridentZ RGB (2 x 8GB) @ 3600mhz C14. I only purchased this particular ram in 3600MHZ because I read in another build thread that someone who purchased this ram did not have problems posting @ 3200MHZ frequently. I am really curious as to your overclock procedure, and if you would mind sharing all of your settings. (If you would prefer to leave this information out of your build thread, please let me know if it can be e-mailed to me). I read most of it in the post above, have you decided to do any benchmarking?

Thank you, Austin

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi Austin,

I'm glad to help. Also you can catch me over on Tom's Hardware I'm a moderator there.

  1. The BIOS instantly recognized the 960 EVO. There really is no such thing as a driver for a BIOS it either works or it doesn't, sometimes a BIOS update is needed.

  2. I immediately updated the BIOS to v0902 when I got it and installed Windows on that. As of now v1002 is available and I highly recommend updating to it before you do anything. You can download from the ASUS website here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_Download/

  3. At the time I built it the Creators update was not out yet, but I have upgraded to it and it works fine. Download the media creation tool it will create you an install drive on a USB thumb drive of the latest Windows version. You're gonna need to update the system anyway, may as well start with the latest one.

  4. Thats a good choice of RAM and will help the performance of your system. It uses Samsung B-die chips which at the beginning were the only ones that worked properly at full speed with Ryzen. The Ram I am using is SK Hynix and I needed the 1002 BIOS for it to work at full speed. My settings however will be very different because of that. So my system overall is not overclocked, and I manually set the Ram. After you have everything up and running and installed thats when you want to do this. Go into the Advanced menu in the BIOS then "Extreme Tweaker", make sure AiOverclock is set to auto, this will allow all the CPU's turbo features and XFR to work. Manually set the memory frequency (it may not let you set 3600, I'm not sure), then go down the list to voltage and set the DRAM voltage to 1.35. Finally go to DRAM timing control and set the timings to the exact specs for your RAM. Save it and reboot and see what happens. Worst case scenario if it won't boot you have the CMOS reset button on the back of the system, hold it down and it will reset the BIOS and you can go in and back things down. If the Settings for your ram at 3600 mhz don't work, find the same ram at 3200 mhz and try running your ram at those settings.

I have a couple benchmarks linked on the bottom. I haven't done anything new.

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  • 37 months ago
  • 3 points

Good question, yes that would likely be an appropriate time to use purple.

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

Thats my setup currently, an i5 6500 and RX470. Maybe I should go Black and Purple...